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i posted this in the camper towing thread, thought it might be useful here as well?
Test drove a F250 diesel pulling my trailer this weekend and WOW what a difference. I expected the hp difference which was awesome but the stability, rear end bouncing and sway was so much better. The trailer just felt much more under control.
I pride myself on spec'ing a trailer within the F150 limits but what a difference with that F250. It really showed what a longer wheelbase and extra weight makes pulling my trailer. I always had trailer sway at about 60-65 with crosswinds (F150 has 10ply's and full psi) and had just blamed it on the crappy trailer tires. The F250 proved me wrong.
I love my F150 but if you're pulling a trailer that's more the 24-26ft long, you should really consider the F250.
i posted this in the camper towing thread, thought it might be useful here as well?
Test drove a F250 diesel pulling my trailer this weekend and WOW what a difference. I expected the hp difference which was awesome but the stability, rear end bouncing and sway was so much better. The trailer just felt much more under control.
I pride myself on spec'ing a trailer within the F150 limits but what a difference with that F250. It really showed what a longer wheelbase and extra weight makes pulling my trailer. I always had trailer sway at about 60-65 with crosswinds (F150 has 10ply's and full psi) and had just blamed it on the crappy trailer tires. The F250 proved me wrong.
I love my F150 but if you're pulling a trailer that's more the 24-26ft long, you should really consider the F250.
One really doesn't understand the difference in towing handling between and 1/2 ton truck and a 3/4 or 1 ton truck until they experience for themselves. By the way, nice Outback! I have a 2014 Outback 301BQ.
One really doesn't understand the difference in towing handling between and 1/2 ton truck and a 3/4 or 1 ton truck until they experience for themselves. By the way, nice Outback! I have a 2014 Outback 301BQ.
It could be that the SuperSprings and Bilstein HD shocks I added to my F150 lessened the difference in towing I felt when I upgraded to the F350 PSD. While I always felt my tuned Ecoboost had plenty of towing power, the PSD is obviously more capable in that regard. However, I never felt like I needed more truck as handling, stopping and pulling were fine especially after the Bilstein upgrade. The F350 is even more stable, but at the expense of comfort.
I am not disputing that the Super Duty is better for towing heavy, but that an HD F150 is very capable up to its rated capacity.
It could be that the SuperSprings and Bilstein HD shocks I added to my F150 lessened the difference in towing I felt when I upgraded to the F350 PSD. While I always felt my tuned Ecoboost had plenty of towing power, the PSD is obviously more capable in that regard. However, I never felt like I needed more truck as handling, stopping and pulling were fine especially after the Bilstein upgrade. The F350 is even more stable, but at the expense of comfort.
I am not disputing that the Super Duty is better for towing heavy, but that an HD F150 is very capable up to its rated capacity.
I don't seem to notice as big of a difference with the ride quality. Granted the Superduty rides more firmly, but it's not that large of a difference. However with my F150 I switched over to E-rated tires and always ran them (during towing season) at 65psi and had air-bags in the rear so my departing F150 rode firmer than most to start with.
Maybe the differences are less pronounced when pulling a 5'er, or the HD F150 model is truly that much closer to its big brother super duty that the differences are negligible?
I fixed my towing capabilities of my 5.0 f150 by picking up a f350 with a 6.2, took care of tounge weight issues, not having towing mirrors and more torque in one fell swoop.
Still have the 150, the wife likes driving it.......
I had a 2010 F150 with the 5.4 that I used to tow my 34' TT. It did the job but I felt like it was working pretty hard so I went to an Ecoboost. I pulled that same trailer 3200 miles across the country in the Summer of 13'. I was amazed at how much better it towed, but as others have stated it still felt a little unstable and when the wind blew it took the truck and camper with it. After living on the West coast for a year or so and upgrading to a bigger camper I decided that I "needed" a bigger truck. I got a 14' F-250 with the 6.7L. AMAZING difference! The Ecoboost did the job but this truck doesn't even act like there is anything back there. Whether you go with the 6.2 or the 6.7 doesn't really matter. Having a bigger truck with a longer wheelbase makes all the difference in the world. If you have the means and you intend to tow that trailer (or a bigger one in the future) for a while I would definitely go SD. Good luck!
The more I tow and the more challenging the conditions, the more impressed I am with the F350 PSD over the F150 Max Tow. The fifth wheel just doesn't jerk the Super Duty around as much and a passing situation on a two-lane road was effortless.
The more I tow and the more challenging the conditions, the more impressed I am with the F350 PSD over the F150 Max Tow. The fifth wheel just doesn't jerk the Super Duty around as much and a passing situation on a two-lane road was effortless.
Looks similar to the F150 pic, but tows better.
Nice upgrade, bummed won't be seeing you in the towing/camping section anymore. Very few fifth wheel setups and yours was one of the nicest. Enjoy the F250 and all it has to offer.
As a rule I would go by is a max payload and max tow F-150 can tow up to 8K pounds safely. F-250 and 350 SRW up to 13K pounds...any more and you're in dually territory. Son in laws F-250 is over on our 40' toy hauler even being lightly loaded. Of course these trucks can tow more weight but I'm including a safety cushion. Nice rigs guys!!
I have a 34' Tracer TT and dry it weighed in at ~ 7k lbs. Pulling it loaded with my 13' F150 EB was doable, but I could not transport my dirt bikes, generator, and extra fuel as I was restricted by payload.
Traded in the 150 EB for a 15' F350 with the 6.7. Absolutely amazing difference. As many of you say, towing just feels so much more stable and smooth. The 6.7 is simply awesome and rarely do my rpm's go above 2K when towing in the foothills. My TT loaded is about 8.5K lbs and I have a payload of ~ 2.5K lbs. I also haul a 330 gallon tote of water at least once a week to water the new trees on my acreage and it's effortless.
Here is a pic of my setup just before I departed on my last camping trip.
06-20-2015, 11:58 AM
