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Old 12-28-2018, 12:51 AM
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an I don't think the police allow a warning shot anymore in most populated areas. Some state areas th e Sheriff's would give the group medals and the Mayor a key and good Citizenship award. All depends on the state and the Gestapo ordinances !

the good Samaritan ACT Most likely applies once the injury. U have the legal right to protect someone else if you ask them if they want it. U have the right to assist them if you ask and they agree, unless they are unconscious. We arm to protect but that is a very serious decision. They should have shot them in the store. Just kidding, showing a firearm and they most likely would have split post haste. Once they all left the store it becomes very complicated. All of them are most likely going to have to go thru the system and deal with lawyers, fines and fees because of it all. And none of it was their doing, 2 perps broke a felony law.

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Originally Posted by Tejasandre View Post
Yeah, but you don't shoot tires when in fear for your life. Like a warning shot.

Ok I get you dont fire a warning shot but what i was told and taught is you shoot to stop, not to kill . It could be argued knowing that the people in the car were not armed they were "stopping the vehicle" as best they could. I get your point, I understand the disabling of the vehicle thing. I do prefer the shot the driver as he's operating the now weapon.. But I would not blame someone shooting out tires nor If I were the law charge them for that action.

but thats me.. Im not the law..
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Old 12-28-2018, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ymeski56 View Post
The plan was to steal tools. Then customers drew their guns...

See link: https://www.heraldnet.com/news/the-p...ew-their-guns/
Different states different laws.This just happened today. The one firing the shot was not detained nor arrested. I personally doubt any charges will be filed. Robber was shot in the head. As of 6 oclock local time was still alive.
https://www.ksn.com/news/local/polic...ita/1678185017
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Old 12-28-2018, 10:49 PM
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Ok I get you dont fire a warning shot but what i was told and taught is you shoot to stop, not to kill . It could be argued knowing that the people in the car were not armed they were "stopping the vehicle" as best they could. I get your point, I understand the disabling of the vehicle thing. I do prefer the shot the driver as he's operating the now weapon.. But I would not blame someone shooting out tires nor If I were the law charge them for that action.

but thats me.. Im not the law..
U have a great point, problem is the CCL who has to draw his firearm has to access the situation, use his training and do the correct thing at that exact instant. No training and he may make a very bad decision, even with training with training mistaken decisions can be made. The more training the better. My training emphasized that most all carap is not my fight unless I am personally affronted with a life or death decision of threat. It is a huge decision I pray I never am confronted with. I am also experienced with threat situations & what is lethal and what will not require a lethal response. U never forget either. It stays with you and you just live knowing U made the correct decision not to use lethal force.

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Old 12-29-2018, 12:21 AM
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This is what I am getting at. the Consequences, depending on your state laws..

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Different states different laws.This just happened today. The one firing the shot was not detained nor arrested. I personally doubt any charges will be filed. Robber was shot in the head. As of 6 oclock local time was still alive.
https://www.ksn.com/news/local/polic...ita/1678185017

Well yeah with good reason, the people robbing the store were armed with guns. You don't at that point have to wait to defend yourself or someone else. Violence and or a violent act is already in progress as the store is being robbed and you don't have to wait to be fired upon to engage.

Bravo for the CCW holder that took out one of the dirtbags. Maybe the other pieces of crap will straighten their lives out now that one of them is dead.. I doubt it but it will be a nice life lesson burying their buddy.
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http://chicagoist.com/2014/07/29/con...lder_fires.php

Everyone needs to be aware of the State laws and Local jurisdiction laws. CCL's aren't LEO's If U and your loved ones aren't directly threatened or injured by the perps u need to take cover if possible. It just isn't ur fight in many states. Confronting a lawbreaker may not be your best decision. Again It comes down to where U are, has someone been hurt by the perps. Pursuit of a lawbreaker with intent and U are breaking the law most likely. Keeping an eye on him at a safe non engaging distance and U R doing ur civic duty. Carrying a CCL means U are personally safer with your own person if threatened with great bodily harm. U can also greatly harm Ur self by making bad choices. If you feel you have to fire that hand cannon, U are going to need a lawyer in many locals no matter what.

I am happy U shot that b-terd at my neighbor store and sad u have to go to jail and face civil suits too. U have most likely ruined years of your life doing a good thing. Is the Country we live in. Screwed up! the laws our law makers pass don't actually pertain to them in many cases, they retire and get full pay, do insider trading and receive health insurance we have to pay for. None of it seems fair. It isn't. Still a class of Citizen has been created that isn't an American average Citizen. None of it is fair. Thas the facts.

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I shoot the shats who shot at me ! Hes dead at the scene and seen on the evening news. U never forget the overheard sound a bullet makes past ur ear overhead or the sounds overheard later that day.

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