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Old 01-14-2018, 11:59 AM
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if any of you think the Tacoma is a competitor to this ranger...you need to drive the v6 Tacoma to get a grasp of how absurdly slow it really is. I have no idea how Toyota gets the power to the ground, but it must involve mice and rubber bands, because that truck is a freaking dog. My neighbors had one and I towed their boat with it...and my Honda pilot did a better job, with less power and more vehicle weight.

280hp and 310ft-lbs in a mid-size truck is going be and feel fast, especially with the wide powerband. Any of you who think the 325hp 2.7L TT ecoboost needs to be an option in this mid-size truck are a little crazy. 375ft-lbs in a light rear-end midsize truck is just begging for unnecessary wheelspin. They're saving that for the raptor version anyway.

I don't know what y'all are expecting, or if you're unconsciously comparing this to an F150, but this is a mid-size truck.

Ford used to offer it with an anemic 4 banger and an ancient anemic 4.0 V6. The 2.3 EB is more powerful and more efficient than either of those engines ever were. Give it a chance.
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for reference, this is what the Toyota Hilux looks like:
http://www.toyota.com.au/main/hilux

Nissan Navara
https://www.nissan.co.uk/vehicles/ne...es/navara.html

And the Ranger in Australia
https://www.ford.com.au/commercial/r...S%3D1515949456

So maybe our styling here is behind the times?

The rest of the world has been getting kick-*** midsize trucks for decades that we don't get here.

I'd kill to have a Toyota Hilux diesel, and a Nissan Patrol diesel. Instead we get these watered-down weaned wuss mobiles because Americans for decades thought diesels were too loud and needed cushy wussy cars.
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Sounds like you should buy 1 !
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Old 01-14-2018, 12:18 PM
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I have no problems with the drivetrain, but the styling is not for me. I owned (and recently sold) a 2010 Ranger that I loved, and to me that looked like a "truck". This is too rounded. If you look at a photo of this new one and cover the area above the bed, it looks like a unibody SUV, not a truck to me.
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Bisexual might be a better description.
LOL...I can hear almost hear Arnold saying "Uts a gurly truck!"

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Originally Posted by chimmike View Post
if any of you think the Tacoma is a competitor to this ranger...you need to drive the v6 Tacoma to get a grasp of how absurdly slow it really is. I have no idea how Toyota gets the power to the ground, but it must involve mice and rubber bands, because that truck is a freaking dog. My neighbors had one and I towed their boat with it...and my Honda pilot did a better job, with less power and more vehicle weight.

280hp and 310ft-lbs in a mid-size truck is going be and feel fast, especially with the wide powerband. Any of you who think the 325hp 2.7L TT ecoboost needs to be an option in this mid-size truck are a little crazy. 375ft-lbs in a light rear-end midsize truck is just begging for unnecessary wheelspin. They're saving that for the raptor version anyway.

I don't know what y'all are expecting, or if you're unconsciously comparing this to an F150, but this is a mid-size truck.

Ford used to offer it with an anemic 4 banger and an ancient anemic 4.0 V6. The 2.3 EB is more powerful and more efficient than either of those engines ever were. Give it a chance.
People underestimate the 2.7 ecoboost. Most think it doesn't belong in a half ton and can barely pull itself.

I currently own a 2.3 litre ecoboost in a Lincoln MKC. It's not tuned as hi as a mustang but I'll tell you this SOB flies. It feels like a large V6. The wife has been wanting a new vehicle and every car/suv she test drives she claims it has no power.

I feel this could be a great motor for the ranger. The 5.0 would be overkill and torque managed to death.
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Personally I'm really disappointed in most every aspect of the truck starting with the looks.
Looks great! My first Ranger had two seats. The second had jump seats. This truck actually has room for people in the back.
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Don't care about looks. I'd like to see the performance and payload figure for it, might buy one in year 2.
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I feel this could be a great motor for the ranger. The 5.0 would be overkill and torque managed to death.
Ford could have the fastest production truck if the 3.5 or 5.0 was in it. And torque can be managed without electronic controls. Just need to build a good suspension package. That can be done with aftermarket. Not at this time of course, but I'd bet the aftermarket would be all over it.
Overkill, no such thing!!!
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Originally Posted by Cwprotek View Post
People underestimate the 2.7 ecoboost. Most think it doesn't belong in a half ton and can barely pull itself.

I currently own a 2.3 litre ecoboost in a Lincoln MKC. It's not tuned as hi as a mustang but I'll tell you this SOB flies. It feels like a large V6. The wife has been wanting a new vehicle and every car/suv she test drives she claims it has no power.

I feel this could be a great motor for the ranger. The 5.0 would be overkill and torque managed to death.
I haven't seen many people underestimate the 2.7, but there's no denying the engine has to work much harder to haul the half-ton as well as it does - we can't dance around physics here. Plus, the thing is just so tiny; it would likely fit into the Ranger engine bay with room to spare. I think it would make a great performance engine alternative for the Ranger -- perhaps we'll see it in the Ramger Raptor.
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