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Old 11-03-2017, 04:06 PM
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I haven’t been back to a gas station to have my driver read the pump to me...nothing to reply to. lol
Lol. It took some serious thought to realize you have a driver for you in Kuwait.
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E85 is more expensive than pump gas here. It'd be nice to try E85 but, from a cost perspective, it's never been worth it for me. It's also not overly available around me either. I didn't realize it was actually a cheaper option for people in other parts of the country.
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MN: e10 87 = $2.549
e85 ?? = $1.899 <-- works out to be about 1 penny/mile cheaper
e30 93 = $1.949 <-- works out to be about 2.5 cent/mile cheaper. I'm sure it's heavily subsidized, so I'm running it as much as I can and taking a 20% reduction in fuel cost as a tax refund. I was kinda shocked to get into Nebraska and Colorado last summer and see e85 was the same price as 87 e10
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Originally Posted by Eric Kleven
MN: e10 87 = $2.549
e85 ?? = $1.899 <-- works out to be about 1 penny/mile cheaper
e30 93 = $1.949 <-- works out to be about 2.5 cent/mile cheaper. I'm sure it's heavily subsidized, so I'm running it as much as I can and taking a 20% reduction in fuel cost as a tax refund. I was kinda shocked to get into Nebraska and Colorado last summer and see e85 was the same price as 87 e10
93 octane (premium) gas is $0.60 cheaper per gallon??? Hell I'd be running that all the time. I'm running 89 octane and paying around $2.30/gallon.
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Originally Posted by tareed94
93 octane (premium) gas is $0.60 cheaper per gallon??? Hell I'd be running that all the time. I'm running 89 octane and paying around $2.30/gallon.
it's 30% ethanol, and I'm sure there's a bunch of state tax subsidy going into it. Since I have a FFv, I run it.

Otherwise, the best we can get at the pump is 91 octane without ethanol, and it's at least 40cents/gallon more than regular.

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Originally Posted by LSchicago
You can get unleaded race gas over 100, just be prepared to pay for it. Or just use E85. It is rated 100-105 octane, and cheaper than 87.
E85 is at the expense of 15 to 20 reduced mileage.
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Originally Posted by w00t692
No acknowledgement of my post by OP? Cmon dude, it's obvious that it's the answer.

That fuel is literally just 93 octane pump gas. And yes, VP M5 is insanely caustic to fuel system components lol.
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Yesterday's pricing here:

E85 - $1.40
87 - $2.50
93 - $3.00

It's a no brainer. Even at 20% reduction in fuel economy, E85 is WAY cheaper to run and provides the maximum power you can get on a Coyote engine.
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E85 @ 14mpg (highway numbers I saw at 70mph) = $0.099/mile. Dang, I thought I was doing good at $0.11/mile. That penny per mile buys you a set of tires every 50k.

to hit that same cost/mile on your $2.499/gallon 87, you'd have to be getting 25.24mpg

I doubt many 5.0 Coyote trucks are going to hit that at 70mph.
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Originally Posted by Eric Kleven
E85 @ 14mpg (highway numbers I saw at 70mph) = $0.099/mile. Dang, I thought I was doing good at $0.11/mile. That penny per mile buys you a set of tires every 50k.

to hit that same cost/mile on your $2.499/gallon 87, you'd have to be getting 25.24mpg

I doubt many 5.0 Coyote trucks are going to hit that at 70mph.
My 13 5.0 gets 21-22 on gas at 70-75, so 14 on E85 should be easy.



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