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OP, have you ever owned a truck before? The alloy bodied F150's are far from pigs with almost any engine. But its all a matter of perspective I guess, especially if you normally drive sports cars. Based on your original post I'd like to see any truck on the market that isn't a pig outside of specialty versions.
The 2018 5.0's are better in every way than the 2015-2017 5.0's, and there haven't been that many failures with the later gen 2 Coyotes, especially in the trucks. My 2016 5.0 has been boosted since 1,000 miles, and 25k miles later there are no issues to report.
I think the only issues so far with the 2018 trucks has been tuning, especially the transmission, as other posters have stated.
My 2016 RCSB with a slightly modified Roush stage 2 kit with a custom tune can run low 12's / high 11's (4x4) without any fuss. That's with the A6, so a properly tuned A10 should be even better.
I could deal with mid to high 12's, sounds fair considering size, weight and the price of admission. I have a boosted 370Z and if I could get it to hook I could get low 12's. Winter is coming and in Florida that means great air for boosted power.
Well.... you can get in the 12's with a 2018+ 2nd gen 3.5 EcoBoost tune only and save at least $6k-$10k
I also was underwhelmed with the multiple 2018 F150 5.0's I've driven.
Yes, “a” limited warranty....by a 3rd party warranty company. E.g. not the oem warranty.
The warrantable roush/ford racing supercharger barely makes more power than a stout tuned 3.5 eb so I don’t know why anyone would go that route anyway.
thats refering to the supercharger kit itself. The last sentence of the quote is about the factory warranties that arnt affected. At least that’s how I read it.
also it’s good for 640 crank. That’s not terrible.
Unless something has changed drastically, any supercharger installation voids the ford warranty. Both Whipple and roush offer 3rd party warranties that can (Whipple) or must (roush) be honored by a ford dealership. The warranties are additional cost and have lots of stipulations.
FALSE - don't know anything about Whipple but know the Roush 100%. With a Roush package, installed by a Ford and Roush certified tech you WILL retain all factory warranties and have the Roush warranty.
There are clearly people in this thread with wrong information. The instillation of a supercharger does not void a vehicles warranty in its entirety, only the parts that the supercharger could impact. In this case that would be the powertrain, but things like your sunroof and radio are still covered under the Ford warranty.
Also, the Roush warranty is not a Ford warranty, and the instillation of a Roush supercharger at your Ford dealer does not change the fact the factory powertrain warranty was just voided. Roush sells a supplementary 3rd party warranty which steps in to cover the items who's warranty was voided by the instillation of the supercharger. The Roush warranty, if you spend the $1000 to purchase it, requires the kit be installed by a Ford certified tech OR any ASE certified technician, AND that you purchase the warranty within 30 days of instillation AND that you are the original owner. Also, the warranty only applies to certain kits, in our case the Roush stage 1 kit is covered but the stage 2 kit is SOL.
I have a Roush stage 2 kit. I have no powertrain warranty. This was made abundantly clear to me by speaking with reps at Roush and Ford. My truck still has a warranty, and that warranty covers anything not connected to the supercharger. Also the Roush supercharger components themselves are covered, but the core of my engine, transmission, transfer case, driveshaft, and rear axle do not have any factory coverage. My kit was installed by a Roush dealer with a certified tech...doesn't change a damn thing. Its all moot anyways, as the Roush kit in its basic form is sorely lacking, and it takes an aftermarket tune and parts to really make things shine.
The Roush warranty is actually very easy to understand, and very clear with what it does and does not cover. I've included photos, please read if you have any questions. I'd imagine the Whipple warranty is very similar. Also a reading of the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act should help clear up any other confusion.
BadCon and others have it right. Do your research and talk to a few different sources... if you have some keyboard jockey convincing you that a Ford dealer installed blower is going to have factory warranty in and around the components affected... you will be in for some disappointments down the road.
There is plenty of real, factual info on this site, BadCon just pasted a bunch, don't listen to someone who read about getting a supercharger installed or brother's uncle's friend had one.... listen to guys on here that have them. Nothing better than 1st hand proof.
...also it’s good for 640 crank. That’s not terrible.
5 star tuning dynod a Roush Supercharged 2018 with the roush “warranty tune” and made 494/482. That compares to their e85 tuned 5.0 that made 435/440 and 93 tuned 3.5 that made 445/500.
Last edited by engineermike; 09-26-2018 at 06:35 AM.
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