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I would be very interested in anyone's ability to address what Ford has yet to. The shifting is really pushing me to sell this thing. I cannot stand how it shifts during light throttle and cruise. I had plans to add a blower from the beginning but there's no way I'm willing to try it given how poorly is shifts. Is 93 octane a realistic max or are there gains to be had using E85 naturally aspirated on these trucks?
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Anybody who knows how to tune a GM 6L80E should be able to tune the 10R tranny. It just takes time to tweak them to your liking, since the gear skip and 4 additional gears adds to the complexity. I haven't driven a 10 speed truck, but I suspect one of the first things I would do if I was tuning it is turn off the skip shift for everyday driving.
That said, 5 Star seems to be the most often acknowledged as getting transmission shifting correct. I run their 87 p/t tune for daily driving and am pretty satisfied with it; it's way better than the Ford tune, which just tries to go to the highest gear as soon as possible. There are a few areas where I would make some minor tweaks if I ever decide to license my truck with HPTuners.
I would be very interested in anyone's ability to address what Ford has yet to. The shifting is really pushing me to sell this thing. I cannot stand how it shifts during light throttle and cruise. I had plans to add a blower from the beginning but there's no way I'm willing to try it given how poorly is shifts. Is 93 octane a realistic max or are there gains to be had using E85 naturally aspirated on these trucks?
I'll be honest, what it sounds like you hate, if you hate light throttle and cruise shifting. Is you hate that the torque converter is locking. The 6R80 in the trucks doesn't lock up as swiftly as the 10R80 (not talking about harshness, just that it's left more unlocked to increase responsiveness since there's less gears)
The 10R gets into lockup rather quickly and stays there shift to shift. It feels harsher, but is more gas efficient. I'd be willing to bet if someone made you a mushier feeling tune you'd enjoy it. It would be less efficient though.
I agree with you on having the additional gears and the skip shift, the skip shift is half the story/pain. I imagine the convertor is also part of the problem as mentioned above. I figure there are trade offs so we'll see.
Last edited by 04mysticobra; 11-09-2018 at 04:09 PM.
I agree with you on having the additional gears and the skip shift, the skip shift is half the story/pain. I imagine the convertor is also part of the problem as mentioned above. I figure there are trade offs so we'll see.
Locking and unlocking the converter is done in the tune.
GM had the torque converter locking from 3rd through 6th gears on my Vette. I keep it unlocked in 3rd and 4th, as I don't see it adding to fuel economy, and don't like it locking in the lower gears.
Good to know. I'll keep that in mind as I'm shopping around for tuners and devices.
Originally Posted by BadAV
Locking and unlocking the converter is done in the tune.
GM had the torque converter locking from 3rd through 6th gears on my Vette. I keep it unlocked in 3rd and 4th, as I don't see it adding to fuel economy, and don't like it locking in the lower gears.
I also increase slip and lowered the unlock on my own tune for 3rd gear. The rest of the gears are relatively smooth enough how they are, but 3rd gear just needs to slip til like 80% throttle and then lock.
I would be very interested in anyone's ability to address what Ford has yet to. The shifting is really pushing me to sell this thing. I cannot stand how it shifts during light throttle and cruise. I had plans to add a blower from the beginning but there's no way I'm willing to try it given how poorly is shifts. Is 93 octane a realistic max or are there gains to be had using E85 naturally aspirated on these trucks?
We would be happy to help you improve your trucks performance and part throttle drivability as well! We sell a great deal of these programmers for the newer F-150s and have had nothing but great feedback on both part and full throttle results as well. We typically start out by addressing many of the normal daily driving type of quirks people dislike about these trucks such as the constant up shifting to the highest gear possible which another member has mentioned noticing in this thread as well. These trucks are Flex fuel stock, so they can pick up a little more power on E85 but nothing insane like some other forced induction platforms would.
Here's are a few links to a couple of our customer's threads they had started on this board to let other people know how much they loved our 2015+ F-150 tunes including a 5.0L model as well. Didn't see anything on here yet specifically about the 10 speed trucks doing a quick search since the tunes are still pretty new, but I figured it would give you an idea of what we can do to these trucks in general.
Subbing, currently shopping for one for my '18 5.0. Put 35s on it and it gets real confused about the picking the right gear on the highway. Every slight elevation in the road it downshifts 4 gears in normal mode, sport seems to be holding my gears longer which helps it from bouncing around so much.
Subbing, currently shopping for one for my '18 5.0. Put 35s on it and it gets real confused about the picking the right gear on the highway. Every slight elevation in the road it downshifts 4 gears in normal mode, sport seems to be holding my gears longer which helps it from bouncing around so much.
You won't fix that with only transmission tuning. Calculate what you did to the effective gear ratio by increasing the tire height that much. You need to change to lower gears to completely solve your issue.
11-08-2018, 11:15 PM
