Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk - Who's up for it!?
01-26-2018, 01:23 PM
#22
Innovator? 
Maybe they spent all their money on engines while holding onto a platform dating back to the early 2000's and the Daimler benz era. That's not somethin to be proud of. Oh, and the fact that the cars are heavy pigs, LOL. I don't know if supercharging is innovating. If it is...well...OK? I think innovating is building a blown V8 compact enough to fit in the engine bay of a corvette. Or developing a series of engines that are swapped into everything from Miatas to BMWs. Or creating a modular V8 that can make over 700hp with a relatively tame blower on totally stock internals. On a pickup truck. What is Dodge's most innovative product right now? Do they even have a hybrid vehicle on the market? Or an electric vehicle?
Let's remember the Ford Lightning, which Dodge 'innovated' by competing with via throwing the Viper V10 into the Ram. Which one is still more prized/sought after to this day? The Ford.
FCA didn't invent the wrangler either, and if they did, we'd all be screwed. Let's not forget the debacle in the 90s when they 'innovated' the wrangler to rectangular headlights. Brilliant! Frankly, that's probably kept them afloat versus a bunch of the abominations they've made over the years.
I've seen your opinions elsewhere here and clearly you're either insane or just silly.
Let's talk about mass producing V10 engines. The first Viper was an adapted truck engine. It was heavy, fuel hungry, and not really all that powerful. Kinda like the truck V10. Ever see a Dodge V10 in camper platforms? I never did. Triton V10s or Chevy big blocks. Hm.
Maybe they spent all their money on engines while holding onto a platform dating back to the early 2000's and the Daimler benz era. That's not somethin to be proud of. Oh, and the fact that the cars are heavy pigs, LOL. I don't know if supercharging is innovating. If it is...well...OK? I think innovating is building a blown V8 compact enough to fit in the engine bay of a corvette. Or developing a series of engines that are swapped into everything from Miatas to BMWs. Or creating a modular V8 that can make over 700hp with a relatively tame blower on totally stock internals. On a pickup truck. What is Dodge's most innovative product right now? Do they even have a hybrid vehicle on the market? Or an electric vehicle?
Let's remember the Ford Lightning, which Dodge 'innovated' by competing with via throwing the Viper V10 into the Ram. Which one is still more prized/sought after to this day? The Ford.
FCA didn't invent the wrangler either, and if they did, we'd all be screwed. Let's not forget the debacle in the 90s when they 'innovated' the wrangler to rectangular headlights. Brilliant! Frankly, that's probably kept them afloat versus a bunch of the abominations they've made over the years.
I've seen your opinions elsewhere here and clearly you're either insane or just silly.
Let's talk about mass producing V10 engines. The first Viper was an adapted truck engine. It was heavy, fuel hungry, and not really all that powerful. Kinda like the truck V10. Ever see a Dodge V10 in camper platforms? I never did. Triton V10s or Chevy big blocks. Hm.
I can guarantee any of the motors coming out of FCA arnt even close to as well designed or as stout as what Ford produces on a daily basis. Just because Ford stays conservative with the numbers doesnt mean they arnt better at the game. Great, they released an $87000 SUV that 10 people will buy.
Last edited by mass-hole; 01-26-2018 at 01:31 PM.
01-28-2018, 10:24 AM
#23
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But who offers it turnkey with full warranty, in an SUV? All the above has nothing to do with the Trackhawk, or the discussion of factory horsepower. Sure the 5.0 is great, and I am aiming to build mine faster, but there is undeniable cool in an 11 sec stock SUV.
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01-28-2018, 11:14 AM
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If money really didn't matter I would get one as my DD.
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01-29-2018, 10:41 AM
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There’s enough markup on that car that you’ve pre-paid for your warranty repairs.
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01-30-2018, 07:49 PM
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