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That is what I am in search of " Respectable, Reliable Daily Driver that is fun to drive and I find a lot of great info here. As I been researching before I buy, I want you all help, assistance and opinions. I have a 2015 F150 5.0 with 3.55 gears. These is what is currently in my shopping list. I'm looking at around $1400-$1500
1. 2018 GT Stock Intake with IMRC Locked - Modify and drill for OEM MAP sensor /
I’ve been doing some 1/8 mile dragy testing on my 15 with different manifolds. Between stock, ported 18gt and ported boss, ported boss is far far better. A full tenth faster in the 1/8 and overall drivability is better. The 18gt was really good and matched the stocker up to 6k-ish and then took off from there. The IMRCs were functional too as I had the pigtails for it but then that failed and 0-60 went from 6.12 to 9.5!
Boss is the only one that’s been sub 6s. All my testing was on 91 octane too
I’ve been doing some 1/8 mile dragy testing on my 15 with different manifolds. Between stock, ported 18gt and ported boss, ported boss is far far better. A full tenth faster in the 1/8 and overall drivability is better. The 18gt was really good and matched the stocker up to 6k-ish and then took off from there. The IMRCs were functional too as I had the pigtails for it but then that failed and 0-60 went from 6.12 to 9.5!
Boss is the only one that’s been sub 6s. All my testing was on 91 octane too
I should have everything by this Friday to be able to so swap. Since I'm going at it alone... I'm just wondering, how will my truck run without the tune. Will it run ok. I know I have to do some logging for my custom tunes. For tuning ..I have 6 tunes waiting... I have 87-89-93 octane.... so I'm going for Performance / Tow and Performance E85 for track visits. Maybe 87-89 economy for long trips.
I wanted to do a Flowmaster 40 Series install too.
1. 2018 GT Intake install / IMRC delete
2. CAI install
3.Tune Logging
I should have everything by this Friday to be able to so swap. Since I'm going at it alone... I'm just wondering, how will my truck run without the tune. Will it run ok. I know I have to do some logging for my custom tunes. For tuning ..I have 6 tunes waiting... I have 87-89-93 octane.... so I'm going for Performance / Tow and Performance E85 for track visits. Maybe 87-89 economy for long trips.
I wanted to do a Flowmaster 40 Series install too.
1. 2018 GT Intake install / IMRC delete
2. CAI install
3.Tune Logging
15-17 needs a tune for a different manifold. Without one it’ll barely idle because it thinks it still has IMRCs. I would have the time waiting on your programmer before doing the swap
Does anybody have any dyno data for low rpm torque values for enabled and disabled CMCV operation? I am thinking about putting a 2018 F150 intake on my 2014 F150 and wondering if the CMCV function has enough benefit for low end torque and fuel economy for me to design an external control system for it.
Also, does the CMCV operate variably or just full open or full close?
Does anybody have any dyno data for low rpm torque values for enabled and disabled CMCV operation? I am thinking about putting a 2018 F150 intake on my 2014 F150 and wondering if the CMCV function has enough benefit for low end torque and fuel economy for me to design an external control system for it.
Also, does the CMCV operate variably or just full open or full close?
they open under WOT conditions. Don’t overthink it. The 18 f150 manifold is already a significant torque increase in the low-mid
The schematic shows the CMCV control from two inputs: engine RPM and throttle position. My thought was to use the overlay of two dyno graphs for CMCV closed and CMCV open and use the intersection point on the torque curves as one of the CMCV opening thresholds. Ideally, I would want dyno graphs of the same two CMCV positions for different throttle positions to optimize CMCV operation.
The schematic shows the CMCV control from two inputs: engine RPM and throttle position. My thought was to use the overlay of two dyno graphs for CMCV closed and CMCV open and use the intersection point on the torque curves as one of the CMCV opening thresholds. Ideally, I would want dyno graphs of the same two CMCV positions for different throttle positions to optimize CMCV operation.
You're not going to find that, they open very early. The hole in the flap is barely larger a pea and has very poor cross section. In addition they're either full open or full closed, they don't vary. You're overthinking it
You might be interested in this
Blue is 18f150
Green is 18gt
Red is ported stock 11-14.
Ignore the initial hit inconsistentcy, what you're looking at is the liner right below the word torque and door follow them up from there. This is an 11-14 truck with cai and off-road y pipe
The 2018 imrc is vacuum actuated with a counteracting spring. Basically, wot=no vacuum=no closing regardless of what the pcm says to do. The pcm says to open at all times wot, as well.
That said, closing of the imrc increases cylinder air turbulence, which changes borderline knock and mbt timing. There are two sets of timing tables: one for imrc open and one for imrc closed. If you can’t modify spark based on imrc position, then half the advantage is gone. There are also two sets of torque and speed density tables. With the old gen1 pcm, it lacks half of the mapped points required to make the controls work right with imrc closed and open.
Last edited by engineermike; Nov 18, 2021 at 08:38 AM.