edgeflyer

Here is a copied quote from Shawn with his explanation on how he uses knock sensors. From facebook over a year ago. This is just info for those who are interested in his explanation of his method. Remember, the world was flat for a long time, ask any expert back then. Summers22. If you PM me your phone number, I will discuss with you, but I'm over playing games on forums, which is why I wont post.

"I am not in the educating business however I will put this out there for the people who dont run SSi because most SSi customers know this already.
Knock Sensors 201
When ever you see someone post about SSi turning off knock sensors just know they are coming from 1 of 2 places, or both.
1- They do not knock knock sensor configuration, control, the use, or how to log and interpret.
Basically ignorant, limited knowledge base, and uneducated.
2- They just spread hate and lies for what ever agenda they may have.
Most Ford vehicles come with a global knock sensor system. 95% or so do use this. So when logging you will use the standard "knock sensor" pid or dmr. If any cyl detects knock it will "globally" subtract as a whole from every single cylinder the amount that the one cyl is detecting. It will show up in that particular pid with numbers usually varying from plus or minus up to 8.
Some vehicles use a Individual Cylinder knock system. When a vehicle uses an individual cyl knock system to log correctly you must pick individual pids for each cylinder to see it working. In an individual cyl knock system the global knock will always read 0 because the global knock isnt being used. Pretty straight forward.
To log individual knock control correctly with some vehicles such as SHO's and Explorer Sport it can present some challenges because the pids and dmrs may not be present in the logging configuration for a given strategy. I wont enlighten you how to do it at this point because Im not educating the whole world. That isnt my job. Limiting the stupid uneducated person from misinformation. yes. Most certainly I will.
Most people who know racing and high performance know the benefit of using individual cylinder control for both fuel and spark for power and efficiency. Knock sensor control is no different. Why penalize every cylinder because one determine a degree of knock? We don't. Its just not smart and certainly is not efficient at all.
Knock sensors have a great amount of adjust ability on top of what system it uses. How much it can add, subtract, what etc they come on, rpm in which they are to be used, and adaptive functions. We actually extend their range of use as well over factory settings in most cases.
KNOCK SENSORS ARE CRITICAL!! You CANNOT shut off the knock sensors and run well. This is just stupid ignorant talk at best.
If you see a SSi log and it shows "0" on "Knock" now you know why. It isnt being logged correctly. It isnt using the correct logging for the configuraion being employed. If you see 100, 500, 10000 on individual cyl knock it isnt logged correct either. This use requires more time and attention from the tuner and customer education. So if logging is required on at least 80% of vehicles you need to get with me prior to ensure it is done correctly and accurately and not waste anyone's time and effort.
This is just another example of how much further we are ahead using efficient tuning technology others are not. We also use individual fuel control where others do not. Just a few shining examples of where who is on the tuning totem pole.
Attached is a small sample of a correct log showing 0 in global and the benefit of individual cyl control. Notice the variance of each cylinder. Its called performance efficiency. We actually fine tuned Lance Morgan truck yesterday which had Cyl 3 and 6 that was about 3-4 degrees higher than all other cylinders to this. Bad ***! Hell yeah!
So when you see someone spreading BS about shutting off knock sensors now you know they are pulling down their own pants showing off their lack of tuning prowess and limited knowledge base. As tuning technology increases so does the impact of correct logging. Welcome to 2016. If you choose to be in outdated tuning technology go right ahead and be happy with it. SSi customers prefer the best for their vehicle. Wait...they demand it. Naysayers and haters you just got schooled. Again.
Peace / Out"

edgeflyer

Here is an ecoboost logshot

Summers22

iTrader: (2)

Thank you for explaining your experience. You answered my question about SSI and knock sensors. Not sure why you had to get defensive.

Summers22

iTrader: (2)

I didnt see a post telling him he cant share his review, unless I missed something. I asked a question if he looked to see the data on knock sensors. The fact that people get defensive over SSI and knock sensors, speaks volumes.

Lenn

It’s called “stopping the ball before it gets rolling�. After a customer gives a review, the VERY first reply is something snarky about his chosen tuner choice based on rumored reputation.

Summers22

iTrader: (2)

I asked a question about knock-sensors, simple as that. The OP came back with good information, which I acknowledged.

Lenn

Yes you did. Thanks for that.

mass-hole

Are you saying he had the throttle tuned aggressively and had it going WOT with a small press of the pedal, or was he literally running this thing like a diesel and opening the TB and letting the turbos control air flow?

Needacage

When the actual throttle position of the pedal was at 50%, the throttlebody was open 100%.

Has anyone just used the canned SCT tune for a 2012 5.0? If so, are they any good. I ordered a tune with MPT since it only added $50, but MPT won't deal with Cali so they cancelled the custom tunes but I think they still sent me the tuner. I figure I can try the canned tune until I decide who to use that will deal in Cali. Maybe my Explorer tuner can do it. If not, I'll try Shawn. I might try Shawn anyway, but tell him to utilize the full range of the throttle pedal.

Skyscrapers17

Hope everyone is well. Have been reading some responses as this is all new to me. Having a hard time deciding what Intake and tuner to purchase for my
20​​​​17 F150 5.0 Supercrew . I assumed just from reading a few replies this group would direct me on the right path. Happy Holidays to everyone.

Thanks.