I guess it’s my turn to join that 3X5 life.
11-15-2017, 09:40 AM
#4
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11-15-2017, 11:00 AM
#6
Senior Member
It's not really any of my business, but I though this was pretty impressive. Dustin Whipple posted this on a mustang forum:
"we have a lead Ford calibrator that does our cals using all OEM tools. We have access to all our own tables and add/subtract as needed to better enhance the cal...
...I think many are confused on the calibration process. We don't calibrate like aftermarket. The calibration is done at every 2 deg of cam movement at ever 250rpm, steady state (includes all 4 cams). That is mapped at stoich and PE. The boarderline, all 29 tables are mapped that way based off cam position. It is then run from -20 to 115 deg F with that boarderline table to come up with the optimum curve.
The knock system is recalibrated and tested using development PCM's with faster logging so we can isolate noise from knock and when to look for knock as we have a much narrower window than a NA car.
What does all this mean? We are not guessing at timing/air fuel, cam position, torque, etc. It's mapped just like stock which is very different than using aftermarket tools."
"we have a lead Ford calibrator that does our cals using all OEM tools. We have access to all our own tables and add/subtract as needed to better enhance the cal...
...I think many are confused on the calibration process. We don't calibrate like aftermarket. The calibration is done at every 2 deg of cam movement at ever 250rpm, steady state (includes all 4 cams). That is mapped at stoich and PE. The boarderline, all 29 tables are mapped that way based off cam position. It is then run from -20 to 115 deg F with that boarderline table to come up with the optimum curve.
The knock system is recalibrated and tested using development PCM's with faster logging so we can isolate noise from knock and when to look for knock as we have a much narrower window than a NA car.
What does all this mean? We are not guessing at timing/air fuel, cam position, torque, etc. It's mapped just like stock which is very different than using aftermarket tools."
Last edited by engineermike; 11-15-2017 at 11:03 AM.
11-15-2017, 11:29 AM
#7
The guys at ID Motorsports are some of the best in the business and tuning high power Coyotes is their specialty, I trust Eric implicitly and I can assure you they’re not guessing at anything. Whipples tune is great...but there are some things I like a little different than they provide.
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11-15-2017, 12:58 PM
#8
Senior Member
Ok but check soon2bfast's thread. His ID tuned whipple hasn't worked out. I've also heard the aftermarket tuners struggle with the big throttle body if you elected to get that upgrade.
11-16-2017, 03:48 AM
#9
He also bought a used kit and used injectors. Even Whipple told him they think it’s a hardware issue if I remember correctly. I don’t think you can blame a tune for a hardware issue. ID has successfully tuned hundreds of Whipple Coyotes with the big TB...I have no concerns.
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