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Old 10-01-2018, 07:38 PM
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Thanks everyone for the help and useful information. I am going to go ahead and get the Whipple when Black Friday comes around and in the mean time i am going to get a set of long tube headers and off-road y-pipes. Would love to have the ability to switch between tunes on E85 and 93 octane.
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The whipple cal is 50 state, meaning you pretty much need cats.
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Yep...for no cats and switching between fuels you’ll need a custom tune so factor in another grand. You’ll have to retune for E85 and 93 each time as well. Not to mention the fuel system upgrades for E85. There’s definitely a snowball effect.
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Technically, to take full advantage of e85 you’ll need to change the pulley too. 2018 Mustangs running 93 are making 700-750, while pullied up mustangs running e85 are making 900-1000. It’s ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by UNBROKEN View Post
Yep...for no cats and switching between fuels you’ll need a custom tune so factor in another grand. You’ll have to retune for E85 and 93 each time as well. Not to mention the fuel system upgrades for E85. There’s definitely a snowball effect.
If I buy a new truck with "flex fuel" capability do still I have to upgrade the fuel system if I want to take advantage of an E85 tuned Wipple?
On my supercharged Z I can change the tune with a couple of buttons, does Whipple have the capability to store multiple tunes? 91/93/E85/valet
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Whipple won’t tune for E85. You have to go custom and no, your stock fuel system can’t support a pullied down Whipple on E85. You’ll need a pump booster or drop in pump even with a 3.5” pulley on 93. And you’ll need to verify with your tuner that you can safely run a 3.5”. Most I see are sticking with the. 3.625.
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They’ve been dropping hints about flex fuel Whipple tunes on the mustang board, but I wouldn’t hold your breath for that in a f150 kit.
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Originally Posted by UNBROKEN View Post
Whipple won’t tune for E85. You have to go custom and no, your stock fuel system can’t support a pullied down Whipple on E85. You’ll need a pump booster or drop in pump even with a 3.5” pulley on 93. And you’ll need to verify with your tuner that you can safely run a 3.5”. Most I see are sticking with the. 3.625.
Is it safe and worth the extra cash to go with the Wipple Stage 2? If I read correctly the warranty is only a year. What's the ratio of people that go with Stage 2?
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Which warranty?
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Which warranty?
Stage 1 3 year/36K miles (very limited from what I understand)
Stage 2 I believe is 1 year/12K miles with the same stipulations

I think the Stage 1 warranty costs a few hundred, I don't know if there is any charge for the Stage 2
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