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Finally! Another 2018 5.0 1/4 mile time. (Crew Cab)

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Old 04-16-2018, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by UNBROKEN
Tune for tune there’s no argument the 15-17 3.5 will blow the 5.0’s doors off. Anyone thinking different is blind. It’s a lot closer with the 18’s but I think the 3.5 will still beat the 5.0 by a small margin.
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Originally Posted by 2015rubyFX4
Sorry, I don't buy it. If it were true, Ford would be advertising it as 88 hp more. Its a selling point, power. They would not allow that fact to fly by without advertising it as 88 hp more. The 15 they tested was sick
The 6-speed truck had 35s, they'll eat about 15 rwhp on a dyno.

But, it is what it is.

Stock 2018 5.0s are pretty consistently making over 340 rwhp on a Dyno Jet, stock 2015-2017s pretty consistently make under 300 rwhp.

The 2018s at 345 rwhp vs the 2017s @ 295 rwhp is basically what it boils down to on average.

A 2015-2017 5.0 will a need a couple mods and a tune to make stock 2018 power.
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Originally Posted by DeeMiniioon
ohhhh boy its about to get lit in here lol
I dont recall to many people saying they were slower. I recall them always being neck and neck in the same configuration which appears to be the case. There is a video of a bone stock 2017 3.5 EB CC 2wd running a 13.75(i assume not on E85).


There was a time when the 2.7 was as quick as the 3.5. Ford underrated them and they seemed to make within 10hp and 20 ft-lbs of the 11-16 3.5. They were generally a little lighter due to the truck they were in(less options) an would run very solid times. I wouldnt be surprised if a 2.7 was neck and neck with stock 5.0 prior to 2018.

Now if you wanna compare a 4000 lb RCSB 5.0 to a 5000 lb crew cab EB like some people like too, then it obviously wont be a contest. most of us buy our trucks for utility, not speed.

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Originally Posted by mass-hole
I dont recall to many people saying they were slower. I recall them always being neck and neck in the same configuration which appears to be the case. There is a video of a bone stock 2017 3.5 EB CC 2wd running a 13.75(i assume not on E85).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzltyfSNGKo

There was a time when the 2.7 was as quick as the 3.5. Ford underrated them and they seemed to make within 10hp and 20 ft-lbs of the 11-16 3.5. They were generally a little lighter due to the truck they were in(less options) an would run very solid times. I wouldnt be surprised if a 2.7 was neck and neck with stock 5.0 prior to 2018.

Now if you wanna compare a 4000 lb RCSB 5.0 to a 5000 lb crew cab EB like some people like too, then it obviously wont be a contest. most of us buy our trucks for utility, not speed.
IIRC E85 is not compatible with the 2017 3.5L Eco Boost?
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Originally Posted by 4V guy
The 6-speed truck had 35s, they'll eat about 15 rwhp on a dyno.

But, it is what it is.

Stock 2018 5.0s are pretty consistently making over 340 rwhp on a Dyno Jet, stock 2015-2017s pretty consistently make under 300 rwhp.

The 2018s at 345 rwhp vs the 2017s @ 295 rwhp is basically what it boils down to on average.

A 2015-2017 5.0 will a need a couple mods and a tune to make stock 2018 power.
I would imagine the majority of the added hp at the wheels is mainly due to a more efficient transmission as oppose to more hp/tq at the crank?
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Originally Posted by swampvol
I would imagine the majority of the added hp at the wheels is mainly due to a more efficient transmission as oppose to more hp/tq at the crank?
My truck stock made 348rwhp and 386rwtq
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That's insane. Only a 3% loss on advertised crank torque and and 12% loss on HP.

Were these #'s with 93 octane?
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I guess Maurice's times weren't a fluke:


13.4x at 102.x stock, 4x4 rcsb.

Also note his dyno graph at the end. Looks like 369/406 stock and 415/426 tuned, could have been e85 for both.

FWIW, ID motorsports stock 5.0 f-150 made 368/388 stock and 389/409 tuned, both on 93.

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Originally Posted by swampvol
That's insane. Only a 3% loss on advertised crank torque and and 12% loss on HP.

Were these #'s with 93 octane?
93 octane
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Thats Atco too. My local track(where I called out Sofaking but he backed out) and notice a HUGE diff in short times before and after the tune. 2.0 to 1.7? hmmm. Ill bet the tune run was in 4wd and the non tune run was not


Originally Posted by engineermike
I guess Maurice's times weren't a fluke:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rW8dsTugGqM

13.4x at 102.x stock, 4x4 rcsb.

Also note his dyno graph at the end. Looks like 369/406 stock and 415/426 tuned, could have been e85 for both.

FWIW, ID motorsports stock 5.0 f-150 made 368/388 stock and 389/409 tuned, both on 93.

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