yonson

2016 XLT 5.0 4x4 RCSB
3.73 with ~30" tall tires
Lowered ~6"/4"
Edelbrock E-Force 2650 just hitting 10 psi at the top of the gear
Custom Tune on ~E50
Launching in 4x4 ~1500

I only got 1 decent pass, however the MCT was not ideal due to hot lapping and sitting and waiting to run again (Started ~130 and climbed to 145).

yonson

Finally broke into the 11's, no changes other than it wasn't heat soaked, I didn't get any data on the first 2 runs which were both 11.9's, all the runs that I did get logs I had forgotten to turn off the TC and it bogged hard on the 1-2 shift netting in low 12's...

I'm in the left lane, #101

TX-Ripper

TX-Ripper

366 rwhp and 474 rwtq

2016 3.5 Ecoboost: Full Race GT Turbos, Full Race Catted Down Pipes, Full Race CAC, Custom Tuned by MPT through Email for 9 months. Tons and Tons of Revisions to the tune and 100+mph Logs.

Needless to say I wouldn't recommend MPT or any Email tuning for upgraded turbos.

Low Final Power output and some scary drive ability problems (think wot boost randomly when driving at part throttle)

engineermike

In all fairness, it would probably break 410 on a dynojet. But yea, the bigger turbo upgrade has failed to come to fruition with any consistency of impressive results. Once I learned how the ecm works, if knew the tuners would struggle to get it right. It uses engine and turbocharger math models to infer a drive pressure, then uses that to correct the volumetric efficiency model. That detailed data is the normally available for aftermarket turbochargers and even if it was, they wouldn't know how to use it. It took a team of engineers from multiple companies to get it right from the factory.

TX-Ripper

I requested the Compressor maps from Full Race and they explained they were under NDA and couldnt give the data out.

They only guys that have the know how to tune them are the guys with lots of force induction coyote tuning and there is only a handful of those that currently tune ecoboost.

it make it a very unrealistic situation for the guy in his garage to slap turbos on and make 475rwhp...

TX-Ripper

On the other hand, MPT and all of the wizardry with propaganda videos of big turbos and all that will help sell a bunch of Whipple superchargers for all the guys that go the Ecoboost turbo upgrade direction and fail then sell the truck to do a project that works.

The thing I can't get back is the 9 months of my life "Tuning" through email and logs, 9 months waiting to end up with a dyno chart that looks weaker then what they claim from tuning with stock turbos.

9 months of Do "1 WOT run to 100+mph" and "Dont get on the throttle again til we review your log", then you wait days or weeks for a revision to do the same again and again.

TI 3VOM

You should have got a 5.0 then you could deal with Ken at Oz Tuning. A couple days tops to get a revision. I held up the process way more then he did with my work schedule.

engineermike

Back when I bought my 2011 ecoboost, I really hoped it would become the next 2jz, where you could make 600+, even 700 rwhp with a turbo upgrade, intercooler, exhaust, fuel system, and tuning. Yet here we are 7 years later and it just hasn't happened.

TX-Ripper

It’s not going to happen. If these “tuners” are having this much trouble with turbos wait til they get ported heads and cams...

The ve for ecoboost is a tricky bitch.

It’s going to take some major tuners / Tuning teams to get it straight, and there is no money in it for these tuners.

The ecoboost community is addicted to $100 email tunes.

You know what a $100 email tunes gets you? What we have today and nothing more.