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2018 F150 5.0 Fuel Pump Testing (DW400 also)

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Old 03-12-2019, 12:30 PM
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Dorian just uploaded his latest You Tube video from his Florida trip to the track. He was trying to run a mix of 109 octane and E85. It started to run lean before the end of the run so he had to let off.
I am not sure if he was running the stock pump with a BAP or if it was a DW400 with a BAP. I remember the mention of a BAP but I am unclear on the other. I had a lot of distractions while I was trying to watch the video.
I'm pretty sure he is on the DW pump and a BAP.
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Originally Posted by LTNBOLT
Dorian just uploaded his latest You Tube video from his Florida trip to the track. He was trying to run a mix of 109 octane and E85. It started to run lean before the end of the run so he had to let off.
I am not sure if he was running the stock pump with a BAP or if it was a DW400 with a BAP. I remember the mention of a BAP but I am unclear on the other. I had a lot of distractions while I was trying to watch the video.
He has at least 1 DW400.
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MS109 has a stoich AFR of 13.3. He should probably mix C16 in with the e85 and he'll have a lot less fueling problems since c16 stoich is 14.8:1

I love MS109 though, it works really really well.
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Getting a little off topic but Fore says their fuel system for F150s will he out by early summer.
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I was speaking to Rick at Fore today and he said they are shooting for summer release on the F150 system, but is unsure if they will make it. He said there are so many different configurations to deal with on the F150 that it makes a plug and play kit a challenge to produce.

I am currently working with Ken at OZ Tuning, making a dual pump F150 system using the Fore Mustang GT system less the Pump module as the basis for my kit. I have a stock basket/hat coming, and I’ll be loading dual DW400’s into it. Stay tuned.
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Originally Posted by JSEDECKER
I was speaking to Rick at Fore today and he said they are shooting for summer release on the F150 system, but is unsure if they will make it. He said there are so many different configurations to deal with on the F150 that it makes a plug and play kit a challenge to produce.

I am currently working with Ken at OZ Tuning, making a dual pump F150 system using the Fore Mustang GT system less the Pump module as the basis for my kit. I have a stock basket/hat coming, and I’ll be loading dual DW400’s into it. Stay tuned.
nice! That thing is going to make some steam on full E85 and the little pulley!
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nice! That thing is going to make some steam on full E85 and the little pulley!
I sure hope so! I’m getting prepared for a built longblock next year by doing the fuel system now.

My oem pump assembly comes in on Tuesday and I’ll be ordering the pumps from Ken Shortly thereafter. I am waiting on Ken and Steve at OZ to get me some more information on the pumps, then I’ll get them coming.

Once my pumps are loaded in my oem housing and I’m happy with the finished product, I’ll go ahead and order the 2018+ Fore Mustang L2 kit, less the module and a set of ID1050X’s. The nice thing about doing things this way is that Once Fore releases their Module, I’ll be able to install it if I see the need and it will be all be plug and play.

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Originally Posted by w00t692
MS109 has a stoich AFR of 13.3. He should probably mix C16 in with the e85 and he'll have a lot less fueling problems since c16 stoich is 14.8:1

I love MS109 though, it works really really well.
C16 will eat O2 sensors, MS109 won’t.
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Default Dual pump setup with dual Walbro 450’s.

This pump setup is a hybrid of a GT350 unit and F150 unit. I wanted to use the DW400’s but the lack of check valves made the Walbro’s an Easy choice. Besides after looking at the flow data of the DW400 with the check valve installed is actually less than the Walbro 450.

This unit is plug and play for the primary pump, you just plug the connector into the stock plug, then a custom harness with a 5 PSI Hobbs switch will turn on the secondary pump.





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I wonder how much pressure is on the return side? Has anyone ever calculated that? I’m curious if the hard return line directly into the basket will blow the fuel out of the basket in lower fuel level scenarios?
I went lazy...mine just sprays back into the tank from the fitting in the hat. lol


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