2018 5.0 Whipple numbers straight from Whipple.
09-22-2018, 01:15 PM
#821
Senior Member
If you want a set it and forget it tune go with the whipple cal.
Just don’t expect to run an 11 second pass with a crew cab because you will run a 13 or 12.9 at best. Do to the low shift points.
The truck will make power to 7000 rpm fine but whipple shifts at 5800 1st and 2nd gear then 6300-6400 3rd and 4th and you shift into 5th around the 1000’-1150’ mark on the 1/4 mile...
Just don’t expect to run an 11 second pass with a crew cab because you will run a 13 or 12.9 at best. Do to the low shift points.
The truck will make power to 7000 rpm fine but whipple shifts at 5800 1st and 2nd gear then 6300-6400 3rd and 4th and you shift into 5th around the 1000’-1150’ mark on the 1/4 mile...
Last edited by TX-Ripper; 09-22-2018 at 04:17 PM.
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09-23-2018, 10:09 AM
#822
Senior Member
If you want a set it and forget it tune go with the whipple cal.
Just don’t expect to run an 11 second pass with a crew cab because you will run a 13 or 12.9 at best. Do to the low shift points.
The truck will make power to 7000 rpm fine but whipple shifts at 5800 1st and 2nd gear then 6300-6400 3rd and 4th and you shift into 5th around the 1000’-1150’ mark on the 1/4 mile...
Just don’t expect to run an 11 second pass with a crew cab because you will run a 13 or 12.9 at best. Do to the low shift points.
The truck will make power to 7000 rpm fine but whipple shifts at 5800 1st and 2nd gear then 6300-6400 3rd and 4th and you shift into 5th around the 1000’-1150’ mark on the 1/4 mile...
09-23-2018, 10:19 AM
#823
Senior Member
I think they do it that way for towing, in the case that you might hold it wot for extended periods of time. You wouldn’t want it at 7500 rpm for long. On the mustang, that’s not a concern. I haven’t logged much but I did log a 7800 rpm 4-5 shift.
My 2015 f-150 shifted a hair over 6000.
My 2015 f-150 shifted a hair over 6000.
09-23-2018, 11:29 AM
#824
I'd bet money Whipple had an engine let go on thinner oil at high rpm (7500+) and that's why their tune is that way and the oil rec changed, It makes it an "at your ow risk" scenario.
09-23-2018, 11:33 AM
#825
Senior Member
I think they do it that way for towing, in the case that you might hold it wot for extended periods of time. You wouldn’t want it at 7500 rpm for long. On the mustang, that’s not a concern. I haven’t logged much but I did log a 7800 rpm 4-5 shift.
My 2015 f-150 shifted a hair over 6000.
My 2015 f-150 shifted a hair over 6000.
While I agree you don't need 7800 shifts for towing all of our trucks have select able modes and each have there own shift mapping.
So Whipple could leave TOW/HAUL mode with 5800 shifts and SPORT mode with 6800-7000 and not worry.
09-23-2018, 12:02 PM
#826
Senior Member
As for the mustang it revs to 7800 stock so they are not pushing any limits there...
09-23-2018, 04:58 PM
#827
Senior Member
So do the 18 GT and the 18 F150 have different duration cams after all?? This would help explain the dyno differences between similar setups on GTs and F150s
i.e. A whipple 18 GT is over 700 on the whipple cal
i.e. A whipple 18 GT is over 700 on the whipple cal
09-23-2018, 05:01 PM
#828
Senior Member
Pulls to 7800rpm (where a bunch of the power comes from)
And they make the pulls in a much higher gear because the driveshaft and tires can handle the speed (will report higher numbers)
Higher gearing will report more power - usually 3.15 vs 3.31 or 3.55 or 3.73 with will report lower power.
Cams are ridiculously close in duration, but have a different firing order.
09-23-2018, 05:22 PM
#829
Don’t forget the 65hp crank horsepower difference as well
It would seem there is more to the power difference than drivetrain losses. I’m sure the exhaust system is a significant factor as well.
Agreed on the drive modes though. Oz omega tunes have similar shift rpms to stock in tow / haul.
Agreed on the drive modes though. Oz omega tunes have similar shift rpms to stock in tow / haul.
