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Old 11-30-2018, 07:47 PM
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My mom and I are restoring my late fathers old 86 F150. It has sat for about 13 years and I have exhausted all I know and have begun to just throw money at the problem. The issue we are having is that no matter how much throttle I give it the RPMs don稚 come up off an idle.
The engine is 302 and will start and run roughly. I致e replaced the
injectors,
fuel pressure regulator,
plugs,
throttle position sensor,
idle control module,
MAP sensor.
I have also swapped the ECM out With another used one and traced out and tested the omhs on the wireing to the TPS. I知 at a loss on where to turn next and am even considering taking it to a shop and paying someone else to figure it out.
Any help or ideas would be GREATLY APPRECIATE.
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Originally Posted by George Williams
My mom and I are restoring my late fathers old 86 F150. It has sat for about 13 years. The issue we are having is that no matter how much throttle I give it the RPMs don稚 come up off an idle.
Check the throttle cable at both ends.
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EGR valve! Those things always screw up on older trucks and give symptoms as you describe.
You can either buy a new one or pull the one off and clean it out - they get all gummed up.
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The cable is good and I致e pulled the throttle cable off and open the butterfly痴 by hand.
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Originally Posted by George Williams
The cable is good and I致e pulled the throttle cable off and open the butterfly痴 by hand.
When you open the butterfly's by hand with the engine idling, it does not increase engine speed?
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Originally Posted by Rnlcomp
When you open the butterfly's by hand with the engine idling, it does not increase engine speed?
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no it doesn稚 change the engine rpm. I know it sounds weird and that is why I need help
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Originally Posted by George Williams

no it doesn稚 change the engine rpm. I know it sounds weird and that is why I need help
Are you observing the butterfly plate opening or just turning the linkage? I've seen rare cases where the screws on the plate come out allowing the shaft to move but not the plate itself.
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What is the full maintenance/repair history of the truck (EVERYTHING that you know or can find out from previous owners/drivers)? For each part you've changed: what test did it fail, and did the replacement pass the same test? What is the brand, PN, & source for each replacement part? When did this symptom appear (13 years ago, causing it to be abandoned; the first time you tried to start it; or some time after)? Did it appear suddenly, or progressively? What is the fuel pressure at idle?


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What is the manifold vacuum at idle? Have you checked compression with a screw-in gauge?


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What's the gap on the spark plugs?


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It sounds like you have the classic symptoms of a clogged catalytic converter...try removing one of the O2 sensors in front of the converter and see if the engine will rev then......
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Originally Posted by old_coot
It sounds like you have the classic symptoms of a clogged catalytic converter...try removing one of the O2 sensors in front of the converter and see if the engine will rev then......
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