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Old Aug 16, 2023 | 11:38 AM
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I have a 2002 V8 Triton 4.6L, 4WD. Last week my truck starting dying at low rpm, like the engine was choking. After getting the codes P0171 & P0174 I decided to change the Throttle Position Sensor which solved my issues.
But I would still have a check engine light saying my DPFE sensor (EGS Pressure Differential Sensor in my case) had to be changed.

I changed it and now I'm back to the same choking issue, the difference with before is that the engine chokes when I start it, but after driving for a few minutes is doesn't die anymore at low rpm.
i put the old sensor back in and the issue persists.

Any idea what could have gone wrong ? Should I replace my EGR valve or something ?


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Last edited by AlaskanGlacier; Aug 16, 2023 at 01:19 PM. Reason: Forgot the vehicle specs
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Old Aug 16, 2023 | 01:04 PM
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How did you equate the DPFE and throttle position sensor to those codes? That’s some serious firing of the random parts cannon.

The (or a, really) common cause for those codes on a Triton engine in that body style is a rotten hose on the back of the intake facing the firewall. It cracks at the elbow. All sorts of hilarity ensues.

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Old Aug 16, 2023 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Paycheck
How did you equate the DPFE and throttle position sensor to those codes? That’s some serious firing of the random parts cannon.

The (or a, really) common cause for those codes on a Triton engine in that body style is a rotten hose on the back of the intake facing the firewall. It cracks at the elbow. All sorts of hilarity ensues.

To get help quickly, please let folks know what you are working on. Nobody likes to dig for vehicle info.
Hi, thanks and sorry about forgetting the vehicle specs. I added them to my original message.

The reason I suspected the Throttle Position Sensor was because of the engine dying at low RPM. I read on forums that a bad TPS could cause that, and when I saw the code saying "too lean", I searched for that online and also found forums online saying that the TPS was likely to blame. Since I was close to a store and they had the part for $40 I thought I would give it a try, and it solved my issue but didn't clear the codes.

Concerning the DPFE sensor, I brought my car to Midas a while ago and they told me the code meant the sensor was bad. I verified online and with the "lean" keyword I found this website: https://www.aa1car.com/library/ford_lean_codes.htm
So that comforted me in the fact that I needed to change the DPFE sensor as well.

I will look into the hose issue, I haven't checked that yet.


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Old Aug 16, 2023 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Paycheck
How did you equate the DPFE and throttle position sensor to those codes? That’s some serious firing of the random parts cannon.

The (or a, really) common cause for those codes on a Triton engine in that body style is a rotten hose on the back of the intake facing the firewall. It cracks at the elbow. All sorts of hilarity ensues.

To get help quickly, please let folks know what you are working on. Nobody likes to dig for vehicle info.
i 2nd this. The PCV hoses love to rot to nothing
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Old Aug 16, 2023 | 02:45 PM
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All symptoms point to a severe vacuum leak. Follow that trail.

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