Ecoboost Oil Change Nightmares.
06-15-2015, 01:38 AM
#41
Senior Member
The exception was warranty repairs, which were available corporately since they authorized and paid for those.
The same was true for Hyundai when our local dealership sold out due to retirement of the owner; records were only kept electronically at the dealership level, so my new dealership didn't have any history available. The only safe solution is to archive all of your service and maintenance records in a three-ring notebook for the life of the vehicle. This also helps resale value for a private-party sale.
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06-15-2015, 01:47 AM
#42
Senior Member
I just changed the oil in my '93 F150 myself, and it would have been much cheaper to have done at the dealership. The Sport Trac I own has always been changed at a dealership, and I will continue this on my my new F150 when it arrives. Based upon past experience, I will continue to personally check to make sure that a Motorcraft oil filter is on the engine as I requested instead of the cheapest auto parts bargain-of-the month, and the dipstick shows the full level before I leave the premises. I have been shorted quarts of oil before at both a quicklube and a Ford dealership (which is why I didn't order my truck from them).
It seems that Ford prices the oil change and "the works" at a break-even or loss leader price to get us back to the dealership for other needed services and to have nothing better to do than look at the new vehicles while sipping a cup of coffee. I'm sure that makes a lot of sales.
It seems that Ford prices the oil change and "the works" at a break-even or loss leader price to get us back to the dealership for other needed services and to have nothing better to do than look at the new vehicles while sipping a cup of coffee. I'm sure that makes a lot of sales.
Last edited by Velosprout; 06-15-2015 at 01:52 AM.
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ModelAMike (07-14-2015)
06-18-2015, 06:36 PM
#43
I know this thread is old and I apologize if good answers were posted but I don't have time to read the entire thread.
I'm very surprised that the original poster (and apparently others) are having such a problem. First, draining the oil: I figured out the solution to this in about 10 seconds (really!) the first time I changed the oil. I don't get a single drop of oil on anything. You simply cut a plastic gallon bottle such as the type juices and tea come in that have a handle. I am on a trip now so I can't take a picture of mine to post but you cut a curve that removes the entire bottom of the bottle off and curves down so it curves most of the way to the top of the bottle on the side opposite the handle. Then you simply wedge this in front of the drain plug after loosening the plug. It will lock right in with suspension parts. Put a oil collection pan or whatever you normally use to collect oil and remove the plug. You won't get a single drop on any part of the engine. The cut plastic bottle catches the oil and it then goes out the bottle's top opening into the tray.
For the filter, I just take a small disposable aluminum grease tray that is used for collecting grease in gas grills. Every hardware store has them. It's disposable but I reuse mine. I line it with some paper towels folded over multiple times to absorb oil. I think put this on the collector tray under the filter, loosen the filter and let it drain into the tray. I then remove the filter when any extra oil will fall into the tray. Then remove the tray. The oil won't spill because the paper towels absorbed it. But, really! You don't even have to use that tray although I do. The Ford tray below the filter is designed to catch the oil and it exits to fall into your regular drain tray. As I see someone did suggest, it's better to have the front end jacked up or on ramps so the oil drains from one place but this really isn't an issue that anyone should worry about anyway.
With all due respect, I'm very surprised to see that anyone had a hard time figuring out how to not to drain oil without making a mess. Even quick lube places use a defector to avoid the mess. I've seen them just hold up a piece of cardboard but the cut bottle I mentioned is much better because it wedges perfectly in the suspension members so you don't have to hold anything while the oil is draining.
When I get home, I may take a picture of my bottle and post it here. I'll be changing the oil right after I get home from this road trip so I'll try to remember to do that.
I'm very surprised that the original poster (and apparently others) are having such a problem. First, draining the oil: I figured out the solution to this in about 10 seconds (really!) the first time I changed the oil. I don't get a single drop of oil on anything. You simply cut a plastic gallon bottle such as the type juices and tea come in that have a handle. I am on a trip now so I can't take a picture of mine to post but you cut a curve that removes the entire bottom of the bottle off and curves down so it curves most of the way to the top of the bottle on the side opposite the handle. Then you simply wedge this in front of the drain plug after loosening the plug. It will lock right in with suspension parts. Put a oil collection pan or whatever you normally use to collect oil and remove the plug. You won't get a single drop on any part of the engine. The cut plastic bottle catches the oil and it then goes out the bottle's top opening into the tray.
For the filter, I just take a small disposable aluminum grease tray that is used for collecting grease in gas grills. Every hardware store has them. It's disposable but I reuse mine. I line it with some paper towels folded over multiple times to absorb oil. I think put this on the collector tray under the filter, loosen the filter and let it drain into the tray. I then remove the filter when any extra oil will fall into the tray. Then remove the tray. The oil won't spill because the paper towels absorbed it. But, really! You don't even have to use that tray although I do. The Ford tray below the filter is designed to catch the oil and it exits to fall into your regular drain tray. As I see someone did suggest, it's better to have the front end jacked up or on ramps so the oil drains from one place but this really isn't an issue that anyone should worry about anyway.
With all due respect, I'm very surprised to see that anyone had a hard time figuring out how to not to drain oil without making a mess. Even quick lube places use a defector to avoid the mess. I've seen them just hold up a piece of cardboard but the cut bottle I mentioned is much better because it wedges perfectly in the suspension members so you don't have to hold anything while the oil is draining.
When I get home, I may take a picture of my bottle and post it here. I'll be changing the oil right after I get home from this road trip so I'll try to remember to do that.
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ModelAMike (07-14-2015)
06-18-2015, 07:02 PM
#44
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Do post a pic of the gallon jug trick. Interested to see how it lodges an holds there...
I know this thread is old and I apologize if good answers were posted but I don't have time to read the entire thread.
I'm very surprised that the original poster (and apparently others) are having such a problem. First, draining the oil: I figured out the solution to this in about 10 seconds (really!) the first time I changed the oil. I don't get a single drop of oil on anything. You simply cut a plastic gallon bottle such as the type juices and tea come in that have a handle. I am on a trip now so I can't take a picture of mine to post but you cut a curve that removes the entire bottom of the bottle off and curves down so it curves most of the way to the top of the bottle on the side opposite the handle. Then you simply wedge this in front of the drain plug after loosening the plug. It will lock right in with suspension parts. Put a oil collection pan or whatever you normally use to collect oil and remove the plug. You won't get a single drop on any part of the engine. The cut plastic bottle catches the oil and it then goes out the bottle's top opening into the tray.
For the filter, I just take a small disposable aluminum grease tray that is used for collecting grease in gas grills. Every hardware store has them. It's disposable but I reuse mine. I line it with some paper towels folded over multiple times to absorb oil. I think put this on the collector tray under the filter, loosen the filter and let it drain into the tray. I then remove the filter when any extra oil will fall into the tray. Then remove the tray. The oil won't spill because the paper towels absorbed it. But, really! You don't even have to use that tray although I do. The Ford tray below the filter is designed to catch the oil and it exits to fall into your regular drain tray. As I see someone did suggest, it's better to have the front end jacked up or on ramps so the oil drains from one place but this really isn't an issue that anyone should worry about anyway.
With all due respect, I'm very surprised to see that anyone had a hard time figuring out how to not to drain oil without making a mess. Even quick lube places use a defector to avoid the mess. I've seen them just hold up a piece of cardboard but the cut bottle I mentioned is much better because it wedges perfectly in the suspension members so you don't have to hold anything while the oil is draining.
When I get home, I may take a picture of my bottle and post it here. I'll be changing the oil right after I get home from this road trip so I'll try to remember to do that.
I'm very surprised that the original poster (and apparently others) are having such a problem. First, draining the oil: I figured out the solution to this in about 10 seconds (really!) the first time I changed the oil. I don't get a single drop of oil on anything. You simply cut a plastic gallon bottle such as the type juices and tea come in that have a handle. I am on a trip now so I can't take a picture of mine to post but you cut a curve that removes the entire bottom of the bottle off and curves down so it curves most of the way to the top of the bottle on the side opposite the handle. Then you simply wedge this in front of the drain plug after loosening the plug. It will lock right in with suspension parts. Put a oil collection pan or whatever you normally use to collect oil and remove the plug. You won't get a single drop on any part of the engine. The cut plastic bottle catches the oil and it then goes out the bottle's top opening into the tray.
For the filter, I just take a small disposable aluminum grease tray that is used for collecting grease in gas grills. Every hardware store has them. It's disposable but I reuse mine. I line it with some paper towels folded over multiple times to absorb oil. I think put this on the collector tray under the filter, loosen the filter and let it drain into the tray. I then remove the filter when any extra oil will fall into the tray. Then remove the tray. The oil won't spill because the paper towels absorbed it. But, really! You don't even have to use that tray although I do. The Ford tray below the filter is designed to catch the oil and it exits to fall into your regular drain tray. As I see someone did suggest, it's better to have the front end jacked up or on ramps so the oil drains from one place but this really isn't an issue that anyone should worry about anyway.
With all due respect, I'm very surprised to see that anyone had a hard time figuring out how to not to drain oil without making a mess. Even quick lube places use a defector to avoid the mess. I've seen them just hold up a piece of cardboard but the cut bottle I mentioned is much better because it wedges perfectly in the suspension members so you don't have to hold anything while the oil is draining.
When I get home, I may take a picture of my bottle and post it here. I'll be changing the oil right after I get home from this road trip so I'll try to remember to do that.
07-06-2015, 03:21 PM
#45
Senior Member
Did my first change on my '12 Ecoscrew Sunday afternoon. Once I located everything, (quarter turn pins, shrouds, filter) it really wasn't difficult at all. Didn't use ramps, but the truck was angled to the rear slightly due to the incline approaching my pole barn.
Only a couple of drips went into the forward "drain" from the filter, the rest all to the back hole in the shroud. Used one rag for cleanup and that was it.
Granted, the oil and filter for my SD with the V10 is much simpler with plug and filter within a few inches of each other, but hey - that's a whole different story!
Only a couple of drips went into the forward "drain" from the filter, the rest all to the back hole in the shroud. Used one rag for cleanup and that was it.
Granted, the oil and filter for my SD with the V10 is much simpler with plug and filter within a few inches of each other, but hey - that's a whole different story!