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Any help would be greatly appreciated. 230k. Went on a 200 mile trip. Had just climbed the pass and was heading down the other side. About 80 miles into the trip. Checked coolant, topped off oil, checked tranny fluid as well as xfer case before leaving for the trip. Comimg out of the pass (down hill) and the motor quit. Tried restartting and would not start. It didnt even try to fire, it just turned over and over. Had an extreme amount of white smoke from under hood. The temp gauge was showing slighty above normal. Figure this was due to the pass that i had just climbed. Still had radiator fluid. Oil was 1/4 quart low. Towed it to where i was going. Checked spark, had that. Dual tanks, fuel pump 'whined' for a few seconds with each key cycle. Did pull all spark plugs. All but number 5 were loose. A couple only hand tight! Thank my son for that. Checked codes (obd1) got 111 on KOEO. Also got 111 when it tested for codes in memory. Pulled air intake from throttle body, sprayed a bit of starting fluid. It still will not fire. Pulled cap off of rotor and its position was pointing at #1 plug wire. Checked TDC on cylinder #1 and crank was lined up at 10 degrees to counterclockwise (right on the money.)
Does that mean that i did not jump time or not necessarily? What else should I check. It just turns over and over and will not fire. Any help would be much appreciated. I have a fancy multimeter to chck stuff. MAF? TPS? Wouldnt any of those throw a code. Thank you for reading this novel. I look forward to any replies. Thanks again.
Where was the smoke coming from? Does the rotor spin during cranking? What is the fuel pressure? What's the truck's history (maintenance, repairs, wrecks...)?
All the truck's details should be in your signature so we can refer back to them at any time. Click this & read the caption:
I hope i did the add signature process correctly. Please forgive me, I am new to asking questions.
Yesterday i was looking for advice on my 95 F150 that stopped running and wont start. Upon further inspection when i pulled the dual 'pipes' (plastic that goes from the air filter there was some antifreeze in there from the side that they hook up to the air filter itself. Also, although we did not have a compression tester at our disposal, we did pull plug number 1 and, to my friend who has worked on a handfull of these motors, the compression felt fairly strong. However after pulling plug #3, he said there was hardly any compression.
When i gave my son my original 95 f150 he did swap out the t-case which we had rebuilt around 10000 miles before he rolled it. He also swapped the transmission (ZF5) that we had put in the previous truck (the one he rolled) Also about 10000 miles since we changed out forks, synchros?, gaskets etc. Now (long winded i know) But i don't want to leave anything out. We pulled the motor in the previous truck before i gave it to him, we put in new gaskets, water pump, radiator, fan clutch valve cover and oil pan. All new steering/front end components. About $5k into everything. When he rolled that one, he switched the t-case and the ZF5, ill never understand why he didn't swap motors. The motor that up and died on me looked rough
I didnt think it had the same horsepower... basically i dont think ot was well maintained.
i am going to pull the good motor and swap them. What i need to know is do i need to take the pcm from the good engine or not or does it matter. The motors are identical (except for one being a POS) Are there certain items that i want to keep in the truck that i am putting it in?
Again, not sure if i did this signature thing correctly, So here are the specs: Crap motor has around 250k. Good motor has 230K. Near as I can tell, everything else is identical. 4.9l 300. Motor im swapping has had tlc since i bought it (1995.) The only thing that ever serously happened was the original transmission took a dump. (I believe it was a Mazda. It was 5 speed.) I do love the ZF that I was fortunate to find. I think this is my last bit of info (except what you more learned people are going to tell me I left out.) The truck im pulling the motor from has been sitting for a little over 2 years, covered.
What are things i should do/look for while i have it out before install? Also, I have had people tell me the easier way to do the swap is pulling the front clip off. Other people have told me, dont do it!
Thank you for the long read.
I appreciate any and all comments.
There's almost no way for coolant to get into the air filter or intake ducts. Was it bright green? Post pics.
"Feeling" isn't a compression test. Follow the instructions in this caption:
Your description of the truck's (trucks' ???) history is confusing - are there 2 '95 F150s? If so: separate them, and describe each one thoroughly & chronologically. Do the EECs have the same calibration code?
If so: the engines are identical; if not, the engines MIGHT still be interchangeable, but you have to describe every detail of EACH one (don't mix them).
First off, thanks to steve83 who directed me where to go to make a signature. Also thank you for letting me know that I did not need to start a new thread but should continue in this one. When I try to create a signature it tells me that I did something wrong but it doesn't tell me what that is. So the signature that you see at the bottom is actually a picture that I was able to upload so I will just have to post that until someone can help me and let me know what I'm doing wrong. All of that being said I do have some questions and want to let you know where I am on this project and get some input.
So that there is no confusion I will refer to the motor that I am putting in the truck as number one and the motor that I removed as number 2.
Motor number 2 quit working right when I got to the top of the pass heading out on a 2 and 1/2 hour journey. These two motors are identical. The truck that motor number one was in was rolled about 2 years ago and has been parked ever since. My son went and bought another 95 which had the exact motor and body type as the one in truck number one.
He took the transmission and transfer case out of number 1 and put it in truck number 2. Why he did not switch the motor when he did the other work is beyond me and I'll never know. When I drove truck number 2 it did not seem to have the power that truck number one had. We don't know much about truck number 2 as far as maintenance goes. He did replace the clutch, the master cylinder, and the slave cylinder. Since he has had truck number 2 he has stayed up on oil changes, coolant levels, clutch fluid, transmission, T case, rear end fluids as well as clutch and brake fluid. So we do know about the t-case and the transmission as far as its maintenance history.
Right now motor number one is hanging from an engine hoist. I pulled the oil pan and obviously am going to change that gasket. I did not find any metal in the pan, however I did find two rocks one tiny and one quite large the tiny one was laying in the bottom of the pan and the larger one was sitting in the groove on top of the oil pickup. Personally I have never seen that. I figure it must have been introduced during an oil fill or change. If any of you have other thoughts on that I would be quite interested. Motor number one was running great when it was rolled.
My questions right now are these. Even though there were no problems with it 2 years ago when it was rolled it has been sitting for 2 years. Truck number one has been in a backyard (Alaska climate) and covered for two years. Also keep in mind that there was no transmission attached to it no bellhousing attached, obviously. So are there things that I should check for since I have the motor out of the vehicle? I am already going to change one of the motor mounts because the motor mount on the passenger side had fallen apart and the one that came out when I pulled motor number 2 is in fine condition. I don't have the financial resources to really tear into it at this time so I'm not going to be pulling the head which will involve intake gaskets and I'm sure many other gaskets. Are there things that I should look at between the two motors to see if there is anything on motor number two that I might want to put on motor number one? Also, when I push in the clutch I noticed a very small amount of fluid come out at the top of the input shaft. I wiped it off and push the clutch again one time and again a very small amount of clutch fluid came out at the top of the input shaft. I have not touched anything on the input shaft as of yet. I am wondering if there is a seal behind it that I could pull off the slave cylinder and check out or is it possible that the two bolts that hold it on could be loose not tighten to factory specs and maybe you should try to check that out first? I really don't have the resources right now to pick up another slave cylinder so I am hoping that there is something else that I can do to see if I can keep from having to do that. Although I am aware it will be a much easier job to do while the motor is out.
I am no mechanic. I learn as I go along, quite often from the mistakes that I make. I'm very glad to have found this forum with people that have much more knowledge than I do. Hopefully as I learn more I will be able to help somebody else down the road.
I will try to post pictures of the truck, the motor and the rocks that I found in the oil pan.
I am thankful for any responses that I get.
06-21-2018, 02:04 AM
95 f150 4.9l 300
