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Diodesuck 01-15-2019 01:57 PM

08 F-150 Electrical mystery
 
Hi everyone, new user but have been using this as a resource for quite sometime (thanks google). I'm not sure if I'm posting in the right forum, but I've got a hell of a weird one. Hopefully someone has encountered it or has an idea.
I have a problem with the OTIS on my truck. Essentially, after 3 starts it will blow the diode in the auxiliary fuse box under the hood. Every time. Without fail. The result is the diode doesn't blow shut(as one would assume), it goes neutral. This makes it so that the truck will not start without jumping the relay in the fuse panel, unless it's been sitting for several hours. The truck has been to the dealer and my own garage floor many times trying to sort this out. Everything on this circuit short of the wiring has been replaced. Fuse panel, PCM, Ignition switch, Stereo, TCM, All fuses/relays, that particular diode has been replaced more than a dozen times. The remote start has been disconnected, the last thing I did was remove the wires for that diode from the fuse box under the hood and bypass it on the off chance that the connections in said box were somehow screwed. None of it has worked. As best as I can figure, there is a short in the wiring between that diode and the PCM. But I have no clue how to test or trace it given that the wire goes directly into the main harness that goes from that side of the truck to the bundles of wires connecting to the PCM and I would really rather not blindly replace the entire wiring harness if I can avoid it.

I've been driving for a while now literally with a switch wired up to jumpers in the main fuse box so my truck starts reliably. If anyone has thoughts or suggestions, they would be very welcomed.

Diodesuck 02-06-2019 10:29 AM

It seems this is stumping everyone as much as me. I have done a little more testing and found that when I connect the mutlimeter it gives the expect 0L reading on each wire when the diode is removed. However if I start the truck, turn it off, remove the diode again, the wire that goes from the diode then splits to PCM and fuse box actually produces a reading. I would think that it should just read 0L still and after a while it does. Not sure if that helps.

Diodesuck 03-01-2019 03:56 PM

Well in case this mystery befalls someone else, I think I 'may' have found the issue. After doing more digging around and coming up completely empty, I went back to the fuse panel(which has been replaced). I re-checked all the mini-fuses and as usual they were all fine. I then noticed the odd cartridge fuses at the bottom of the panel. Can't say as I've ever seen this style before, but given the consistency with the diode blowing and the weird time frame for the truck being able to start again with the diode blown. I thought it might be worth investigating. Sure enough there is 1 for the starter and 1 for the ignition. Neither of these seemed blown by visual inspection. I figured they're pretty much the only things that haven't been replaced and if one of them had a small fault, it may explain the apparent 'cool down' time needed if the diode is already blown and why it would always go after a specific number of starts. So I swapped out both and so far a month later, there hasn't been a single problem. For perspective, since the issue started the diode has blown(meaning truck would not start with the key) after every 4th start. Without exception.
Hopefully this does mean the issue has been resolved and at the very least may help someone else down the line with troubleshooting.

txmademomma 02-05-2023 05:38 PM

at a loss
 
So ive been reading all the post and they get close but dont answer my issue. One day my wife tried to drive my truck but it wouldnt start. she usually has an issue with unlocked with the remote in order to start the truck so i figured that was the problem again. next day i went to start and the battery was dead so i jumped the truck started just fine drove the entire day with no issues. when i got home i seen the radio wasnt turning off when i took my key out and the truck was dinging asthough i had left the key in. i made sure it was off disconnect the face of the radio thinking that must have been the reason the battery was dead. next day still dead jumped it off so i actully pulled the fuses to the radio and gem. next day still a dead battery but it wouldnt jump off anymore. bought a brand new battery but truck wont start. it cranks fine lots of power wont start. ive tried replacing the battery in the remote. noticed today it takes a little bit before the gages come on after turning the key on. lights all come on but not the gages. they will and the truck reconizes the door is open with the key on and gages then work but the odom is all dashes. ive checked all fuses made sure they were correct volt fuse and none broken. tried the turn the key three of four times still no success. any other suggestions?

BareBonesXL 02-05-2023 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by txmademomma (Post 7368941)
brand new battery but truck wont start. it cranks fine lots of power wont start.

takes a little bit before the gages come on after turning the key on. lights all come on but not the gages. they will and the truck reconizes the door is open with the key on and gages then work but the odom is all dashes.

ive checked all fuses made sure they were correct volt fuse and none broken. tried the turn the key three of four times still no success. any other suggestions?

I'd start a new thread. Seems like you posted here because of the mystery.

Odometer all dashes is a clue I think.

Plus, very important - tell people what you're working on.

Jimboy 02-06-2023 07:50 AM

Start a new posting and include your details as Bones has suggested.


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