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Old 12-04-2012, 11:08 PM
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awesome you have been a tremendous help. i really apppreciate your extended help!!!
Old 12-04-2012, 11:34 PM
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No problem, I apologize on the length but that's factory way of doing it.
Old 12-05-2012, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by shawj460
thank you IMP, i took a chance on it and i threw some lucas, in the diff. i made it home, was a long 21 hr drive but im here. im taking the cover off today to inspect it, im a engine builder, never really rebuilt a rear end, what would make this an easier project. id love to just rebuild it myself. i was reading up on some of the diffs, for this year and i find that the limited slip is a clutch pack. so that worries me, also how hard is it to set the preload. and if i do a rebuild would i have to change the pinion and ring. or only if they are worn out ( pitted, chipped etc). or would it just be easier to take it to someone? and would u know of an estimate price range?
Thanks again your knowledge is greatly appreciated
Sorry for the delay, shaw; don't know for sure where yer at by now, but anyway: The clutch pack preload? It's accomplished by a big spring, not a real problem (at least on Ford-built). Auburn is good, I've heard, but do not know more.
If ring & pinion tooth surfaces are nice and shiny, no real reason to replace the gears, so long as no evidence of excessive heat is there.
If rebuilding, replacing all the bearings, let's say, tolerances present in bearing mfg. will result in improper gear tooth pattern, likely enough to produce noise, possibly close enough to "luck out", no way of telling in advance. New ring and pinion would be even a bit trickier. These gears are initially set up in their center section by measuring the DEPTH to the pinion face from a reference point in the carrier, after the pinion is located in the pumpkin. Each pinion is factory-marked (sometimes the marks are no longer legible after long use), with an identifying number to tell where the pinion needs to located compared to a "standard depth" which is determined by "line-to-line" bearing dimensions, that is, no tolerance. Thus, a +5 on the pinion would mean 0.005" deviation from the standard shim stack height.
Since shims not only locate the pinion with respect to the ring gear, but ALSO determine pinion bearing preload, which is VERY important, proper pinion set-up is very critical, to get good service life. Pinion bearing preload is measured by rotating the pinion within the housing while measuring turning torque effort, done by hand.
I can't personally recommend to you that you fix this thing yourself, or not, 'cause there is really no way to judge your ability: I'm NOT questioning your smarts, understand, just don't want to encourage you to go ahead, and come out smelling real bad! Take a whack at the job, if you feel so inclined, but best have a Ford Shop Manual to follow, few aftermarket books I have seen are really good enough.
If you go ahead, be ready to experience some frustration; pinion bearings (the rear one especially) press on TIGHT; then ya gotta often get the damn thing back off to change shim thickness, sometimes more than once. Use of a solid spacer (ala racing-car technique) instead of a "crush washer" makes the job even tougher. Good luck! imp

Edit: Price? No idea, but be forewarned, many shops lack the top-level experience needed to acceptably (to my expectations, anyway) set up ring & pinion gearsets. It's slow work, takes patience and careful understanding, thus to make money at it, the charges must be high.

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