X-Plan
 

So I went to the dealer today to drive the 2.7EB and 3.5 EB back to back. I have to say I'm impressed by the 2.7.

Anyways... Literally 3 minutes after I left the lot I blew a coolant hose on my current truck (2004 Titan). If that's not a sign, then I don't know what is.

So I have X-plan pricing available. I have been reading a lot on here that people can beat the X-Plan price through negotiation. Others have said they negotiate trade-in values and such before hand then spring the 'ole X-Plan trap on the dealer. In the X-plan fine print it says you have to IMMEDIATELY tell the dealer on your FIRST visit that you are eligible. It's even bold like that and states it a few times.

On to my questions....

1. Is the X-plan pricing a good deal or not?

2. How can I get an estimate of the X-plan pricing?


I have tried edmunds, but it just lets you select a generic options package, and I tried FordPartner.com and it says X-Plan pricing is currently unavailable and talk to the dealer.

I'm looking to pull the trigger soon on a SCrew 5.5' 4x4 XLT. Most likely with the 2.7 with payload and towing package. Hopefully in Caribou.

Thanks y'all!!!

Xplan is a deal, but not a great one. And many dealers I've seen actually do sell trucks cheaper than xplan as even their list price before negotiations even begin.
Tell them youll only buy at the invoice price minus the holdback- that's what I did and got 8 grand off the msrp

Somehow after the "build and price" thing on ford's site it says let us find it for you. It is showing me an inventory list which is showing X-Plan prices.

An example price is $46,095 MSRP including the $2000 302a discount. The Xplan is $40,217.

Sounds pretty good to me, but just to make sure I'll get rebates off of that price correct??? So say another 2 or 3 grand bringing me to #37,000-$38,000. Am I correct in this logic?

EDIT-Nevermind, the Xplan price is including the $1195 destination charge and the incentives.

I have x Plan as well and it is a crap deal. I suggest using true car, it will be lower than X plan and then you should be able to do 1-2K under true car without trying to hard. Read some of the recent threads about deals, I have a detailed explanation.

Another rule of thumb is 10-12% off MSRP plus rebates. I got 12.9% off plus rebates.

Xplan
 

Xplan is invoice plus $100. then you get incentives off that price. Depends on dealers and area on how well you can bicker price. My best price was with xplan after i had tried to bicker a deal. I am about 2500 less then original quoted price after mentioning xplan.

My truck was $55,000 and with the xplan it was down to $48,xxx plus the 5,500 discount Ford had at the time, so it came up around 43,000. Xplan is great.

No its not, at least in the USA. I qualify for x plan. I built out my truck through the xplan site and my dealer easily beat it by giving me invoice - holdback. Like others have said, tell the dealer you will give them invoice - $500, they should do it with no problem. They are still making money. If not, try another dealer.

On big advantage for me. Xplan caps what the dealer can charge for doc fees. If I remember right it has to be 50.00, with out the cap many local dealers will charge 300.00 or more.

My salesman showed me all the different pricing levels for the truck I ordered; X-plan was about $980 over A-plan, and only about $150 more than invoice.

The thing that bugs be is it says you can't negotiate for add ons over $50. I was going to try to squeeze a bed liner or something out of the deal. I have 2 dealers about equidistant from me. Might have to try one with and one without. I'll post my findings. Probably wont be until next week. Still trying to find the right truck first. I really don't feel like waiting all summer if i order one.

$100 max doc fee.

X plan works out ok in the new trucks as there are not very many rebates on them. My dealer said it was better than anything else he could do.
Mine is in Canada. I got a Lariat 502. Sticker was 62,500 and I paid just over 50 for it.
I thought it was a great deal. And I hope the dealer makes money on these deals. We need them to stay in business to take care of us.
Keep in mind profit isn't a swear word.

Whether X-Plan is good or bad depends on perspective.

All the hardcore members around here will go on and on about their negotiating skills so it's a little intimidating. They twisted this guys arm, they put the squeeze on this guy, this guy was a young punk and I have experience, blah blah. Good for those guys. They drive a hard bargain and got what they wanted.

Other people are non-confrontational or simply don't care what they pay. These are the people X Plan works well for. They planned on paying close to sticker, then X Plan comes in and they save a couple grand. Win-Win. Or they don't want to deal with any bull**** because their time is more valuable than sliding a piece of paper over an IKEA desk with some initials on it three or four times.

To each his own. If you can negotiate down the price, do it. Right now it should be fairly easy to get invoice - incentives depending on the model. XLT is your best bet for deals around here. The higher up in trim, the more you save with X-Plan.

www.fordpartner.com Put in your code for whatever qualifies you for X-Plan and it will let you into the website. From there, you can do "Build and Price" and you can spec out whatever Ford vehicle you want and it will show you the X-Plan price. Or you can search dealer inventory and find a truck you want and it will show you the X-Plan price. Extended inventory works best IMO. You can also view window stickers and VINs. Once you have the VIN you can find out what dealership they are at.

I think I looked at over 150 window stickers last night lol. I've realized I'm not to get everything I want and no extras without ordering. Time to narrow down the must-haves from the like-to-haves. Different post though...

For those without an X-plan affiliated organization, you can simply use EAA01 as your partner code at fordpartner.com. It will allow you to build and price with X-plan figures for reference.

Booze hit the nail on the head. I can go in and turn my salesman into my worst enemy and get on the bad side of the general manager, or I can get down to "about" invoice pricing with a friendly smile and a handshake. In my experience, x-plan has saved more than any negotiated deal at my local dealer (only two other dealers in state and they are each 360 miles away).

For those who don't wish to waste any time at the dealer, nor enjoy the vehicle purchase experience, X-plan is a beneficial option.

Best of luck, OP.

Sorry to jump on this thread with another question...
Those that get below X-Plan pricing, any idea how it compares to AZ Plan?
Using the search vehicles I found an XLT similar to what I built with an MSRP of $47,455; X Plan of $43,500; and AZ Plan of $41,511.
Obviously another $2,000 savings from X to AZ is a good amount, is it possible a dealer could go as low as AZ pricing if negotiated?

Matt
P.S. In Chrome when you goto search inventory if you right click and inspect element you can drill down and see X and AZ plan prices

On my 2015 platinum, invoice was $63 less than xplan, and zplan was $2325 less than xplan.

Keep in mind that the only negotiating room left for a dealer after XAZ plan pricing is to cut into the 3% of net MSRP holdback.

What did you end up getting it for? In relation to invoice.

Thanks to SchillerM for letting me know how to see the various prices. Firefox also does this. This information is what forums are great for.

Another question...

Is there any benefit to the dealer using the Xplan vs just negotiating for the same price? I read in the x plan policies that they get a commission on the sale. Is that just the holdback or the holdback plus a commission?

I'm all for car salesmen making a living too, just don't want them to make it all on me.

Zplan was 2262 less than invoice.

So you got it forthe Zplan price?

I joined Mustang Club of America so I could get X-plan. I don't like to negotiate. Buying a vehicle is a real pain in the ass and I absolutely hate all the bull**** and time that can be associated with it. X-plan makes it simple and easy. One of the best car buying experiences that I've ever had, and I hate buying a new vehicle.

I paid 51K (out the door) for a fully loaded 502A Lariat and I'm happy with it. Sure, I probably could have made a better deal if I had spent a bunch of time and effort negotiating. But I hate doing that. And it's not worth the time and effort IMO.

X-plan made it very easy.

or you could spend a few minutes with Google and find a dealer such as Holiday Ford that will sell at invoice - holdback - rebates with no hassles either. As long as your happy with the deal, that's all that matters.

I'm heading to a dealer today to try to haggle my price. It's about 2 hours from home, but they have a truck pretty close to what I want. Only missing the extended fuel tank. I figure if this doesn't go as planned I can talk to my local dealer and try to get it transferred here for the xplan price. Fingers crossed...

Well, I'm a Ford owner again! Didn't mention the x plan (well, mentioned I knew what the price was and you could get it with a Costco membership) I ended up within about $200 of the xplan price. But I feel like I got a better deal on my trade by not mentioning it. Got them to throw in a bed liner, they beat my credit union's APR, and filled the tank. I probably could have squeezed a few hundred more out of the deal, but I live 5 hours round trip and it wasn't worth leaving and coming back to me.

Thanks for all your help if there are any questions I can answer, I'll do my best.

Thanks again!

Congrats! What did you get?
I am still waiting on a few things to sort out before I know what I am going to get (XLT in one scenario, Lariat or Plat in another). Hopeful to do a no hassle under XPlan price, but XPlan is still decent.
Anyways, congrats!
Matt

I ended up with a 4x4 SCrew lariat. I didn't really want (meaning want to pay for) navigation, BLIS, or the tailgate step. But I DID want the 2.7 with the payload and towing package along with the tow mirrors. It will be hard living with the extra options, but I guess I'll get used to those sexy LED tail lights. ;)

As for my personal preference, using the xplan had pros and con's. If I was ordering a new truck, I probably would have used it because I would get exactly what I want. But in the end I FEEL like I got a good deal, and that's what's important.

WHiCH Holiday Ford??
 

Which Holiday Ford will sell at that price....and who there did you work with....


I did find this Holiday Ford in Texas and they have a lot of white Platinums in stock with some good discounts......LK


http://www.buyholidayford.com/Invent...tml?body=truck

I would like to know this too.

Also, while searching i filtered 4X4 and only 1 Silver Platinum showed up.
unchecked that option and several others. So does that mean all others are not 4X4?

That's the one. I am working with their internet sales, but if you look through the trucks they are selling, they are posting their prices for all to see.

Forums are a good place to be!
 

I think it all depends where you live. My dealer who bought back my "crooked" 2015 Mustang had actually to transfer my F150 from a different dealer in Edmonton/AB. The sticker price was $52,900. My dealer sells normally lifted trucks or fleet trucks. And because I asked for a Screw plus 2.7 liter EcoBoost, we started talking about the price. It took me 2 days with walking out a couple times to get it for $43,400 what was close to the sticker price I had on the Mustang 2.3 EcoBoost (paid $39,000 for it). I did get on top a $1,000 voucher for parts from Ford Canada and (what my dealer forgot to put on my sales paper - not even telling me that they got it from Ford Canada) another $2,000 "buy-back insensitive". I am waiting now for a call from the dealership that my $2,000 check is ready for pickup. And yes. They weren't happy that the FORD CSM told me about the extra $2,000 when she followed up with my case. :thumbsup:

Forums are a really good place to figure out what can be negotiated by a Ford dealer.

Off-topic
BTW. To get more money for your trade-in. Go to a different dealer and have a chat with one of the sales guys. Ask for his business card and (if you checked already your black book price) put some extra dollars on top. Write it on the back of the business card. (Make sure that it doesn't look like your normal hand writing!) In my case it was years ago a Grand Vitara with a BB value of $7,500. I wrote $9,400 on the back

If the sales manager comes and tells you much less than you like to have for your car, tell him that you had a chat already at xxx dealer and they offered you (like in my case) $9,400 if you signed a deal this weekend.... And show him the back of the business card.
I got $9,500 for my trade-in because "they always can do better then the other dealer story.."! :party:

NICE TIP!!! will have to try that.

Another internet dealer promises good discounts
 

In adddition to Holiday, give this dealer a look...Winder Ga and shows $8K off Platinums they list as in stock.....too late for me on my 2015 as I am going X-Plan with a dealer I bought my 2011 and 2013 from and they gave the best trade value on my '13 and the salesman has been there 11 years so knows all the ropes.....smile.....no hassle


I will look at the other dealers for a planned 2015 or 2016 'Stang Convert. I plan to get to replace my '74 Vette....although also looking at the 2016 Camaro as it has major changes for 2016...decisions....decisions....:)


http://cars.akinsford.com/search?typ...or_generic=Red

My truck was $70,099.

X-Plan Discount: $5906.00
Delivery Rebate: $4500.00
Costco Rebate: $1000.00

I would definitely say that the X-Plan discount plus the others are great.

Hey guys, its been a while since I've been on since I traded my '11 in for a '14 SHO. I'm going to potentially lease a '15 F150 XLT truck tomorrow and want to run something by you.

MSRP is $51,860
They are giving me $6497 off

I asked them to now include my x plan pin and they said this was better than x plan. Does that sound right? I'm looking lease at 3 yr. 15k/year.

Should I tell them to also include my Costco membership discount or do I need to go through Costco?

thanks!

Its been recommended that u ask to see the invoice and go off the invoice price and minuse rebates. Or 10%-12% msrp

Costco acts as a 3rd party referral agent between you & the dealer only if the dealer is a Costco Auto Plan participant. A nonparticipating dealer will not give you a Costco discount just because you ask for it. Also, perhaps not commonly known, but the dealer pays Costco ~ $200-300 (give or take) for the referral.

FWIW, that is not completely accurate. I happened to read this last month in Forbes. Costco's Auto Buying Program is a customer perk, but they don't make any money off the individual sale. They make it by charging the dealers to sign up with them.

The dealers are not complaining, they sold 400,000 cars thru Costco in 2014.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspe...se-membership/

CLOSE, but not exact . . . .

X-Plan Partner List
 

Here is what has the appearance of being a complete X-Plan Partner List.
There are 2,440 X-Plan Partners listed here.

http://bigvalleyford.com/XPlan/

Hope this helps

For what it's worth, EAA members are eligible for xplan and currently are eligible for an EAA specific rebate on most vehicles using program #35102. You will have to register for the rebate on fordpartner.com using your EAA membership info.

I helped a family member order a new F150 today using Xplan. Took 30 minutes to get the truck ordered on the spot with a priority code and order number. Total of $5500 in rebates off of the xplan price. It is way easier than negotiating when there are no other dealers to negotiate with. This is the 4th vehicle purchased with xplan in the past 4 years. It is very simple and I can go home not hating my salesman, and him not hating me.