Why is it so Difficult?
12-13-2017, 10:53 PM
#41
Trying to figure it out!
This is the exact reason I quit going places for oil changes. They're always in a rush to get as many jobs done so they can make a buck. For the amount of time it takes me to drive to a dealership, sit there and wait, find what they've screwed up, have it fixed then drive home I can do it all myself - correctly - for about the same price and complete another chore.
12-13-2017, 11:36 PM
#42
Senior Member
Have the same issue as OP. Truck had about 500 kms when I first checked oil( about 20 min after shut down). Slightly above add mark. Decided to check next morning before start up- 2 inches above full mark!
Informed dealer- okay we'll drain and fill to proper level. You guessed it same thing next time. Okay we'll do the proper Ford procedure. Checked it before I left the dealer- seemed good. Next morning-same issue!
Took it to a different dealer, stated the problem so far, he asked why I was checking oil in the morning and not following the proper procedure. The oil has to be warm and circulated he says. I say that the best way to get a proper reading is just before first start. He looks at me like I have two heads. Are both of these "service advisors" idiots or am I missing something. Oh the last one is service manager! I always change my own oil, but wanted this documented in case of possible engine damage.
Thanks for listening
Dan
Informed dealer- okay we'll drain and fill to proper level. You guessed it same thing next time. Okay we'll do the proper Ford procedure. Checked it before I left the dealer- seemed good. Next morning-same issue!
Took it to a different dealer, stated the problem so far, he asked why I was checking oil in the morning and not following the proper procedure. The oil has to be warm and circulated he says. I say that the best way to get a proper reading is just before first start. He looks at me like I have two heads. Are both of these "service advisors" idiots or am I missing something. Oh the last one is service manager! I always change my own oil, but wanted this documented in case of possible engine damage.
Thanks for listening
Dan
So why are you checking the oil level on a cold engine? Is this a Canadian vehicle rule? My owner's manual states to warm up the engine to normal operating temperature, turn off the engine, and wait 15 minutes before checking the oil.
12-14-2017, 03:04 AM
#43
Senior Member
I went through the same process with my dealer last year; spent about a whole day at the dealer giving them 4 tries to finally NOT get it right before I gave up and fixed it myself. I went home and dug up the TSB, the owners manual, and the service manual to quote line by line to the service manager what went wrong. They acknowledged poor training and promised to correct the issues. The next time I went in they got it dead on to the top line of the dip stick. About to go in again, let's hope they still remember how to do it. I now sit in he truck for 15 minutes after they get me so I can check the level before leaving the dealer, it's a pain...
12-14-2017, 10:57 AM
#44
Junior Member
Thank you
12-14-2017, 11:10 AM
#45
I change oil for a living that sounds like a pain in the *** design. Engineers need to realize that maintenance has to be straightforward. These 2.7 motors appear to be like a vw in regards to the PIA factor for changing oil.
12-14-2017, 11:52 AM
#46
Junior Member
Montuckyf150, in your opinion then, the way I have been checking oil for years is ok. The big trucks were I work are checked this way. Is it just this engine that has a different procedure?
And it still doesn't sound right that the oil should be that high at anytime..2" over the add mark in the morning!
And it still doesn't sound right that the oil should be that high at anytime..2" over the add mark in the morning!
12-14-2017, 01:03 PM
#49
Senior Member
The upper end of these engines has alot more moving parts than older engines. Tolerances are very tight. It takes awhile for the oil to gravity feed back to the oil pan.
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