Who is buying a 2015?
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01-07-2014, 08:38 AM
Ryan
As an engineer working in the Automotive industry, let me shed some light on this topic, because working in this industry it makes me a little sick when I see the prices of the finished product sitting on the lots.
1) I'm a big Ford truck guy, so this is not meant to bash Ford, just the Auto industry in general (they're all guilty). OEM suppliers have to sell components to build any new vehicle with cascading sales. That means the parts HAVE to get less expensive every model year. But haven't you noticed that the prices of new cars on the lots seem to climb every year? Yes, that's right folks, while it costs car makers less to build the car each year, you end up paying more each year. Fun stuff right? It gets better...
2) Cars now are being designed to be more and more disposable. They're average life expectancy is about 10 years (if you're lucky, and depending on which SPEC and which part requirements you're referring to. Some parts are more, some are less). That means if it takes you 72 months to pay it off, you're warranty conveniently lasts only that long. As soon as its paid off, its depreciated to the point that its next to worthless on a trade. So you tell yourself, "well I'll just keep it and run it into the ground, right?" That's a good idea, because you'll only get another 3-4 years out of it before it rusts, components fail, and things wear out. Sure, well maintained they'll last a long time, I'm simply referring to component's life cycles
3) Hearing people talk about "working the bugs out" always makes me chuckle. The first model year is typically way over engineered just to get the new model out to showrooms on time. OEM suppliers scramble, and are still in the process of ramping up new production lines and tools. So when they say bugs need "worked out" it is simply the growing pains of people like us being handed down ungodly deadlines that are near impossible to hit. By the time a car hits the end of its model line (like the 2014 F150's for example) OEM suppliers and the Automaker have done so many cost savings projects to reduce their costs to make these things, that its literally sickening to see the prices on these things. I understand this is capitalism, but when we save money, we have to pass the savings a long to the customers, yet the big automakers don't have to pass their savings along to us, the consumers.
Cars are not an investment, they're an expense. Don't let anyone tell you any differently. I work in this industry, so call me bitter, but I'm just telling you the harsh truths of buying that shiny new car. So yes, I find it hilarious that people on here with brand new 2013's and 2014's are already talking about trading in their trucks. Hey, if you've got the money, go for it! Your loss, not mine!
That all being said, I love the 2015 concept, and I need a truck. Yes, I've seen some features (that I'm not allowed to share here) that I'm not crazy about, but all and all I plan on getting one. My 2006 will be at the end of its life cycle for me so hopefully I'll pick up a 2016 as soon as the incentives start coming out.
1) I'm a big Ford truck guy, so this is not meant to bash Ford, just the Auto industry in general (they're all guilty). OEM suppliers have to sell components to build any new vehicle with cascading sales. That means the parts HAVE to get less expensive every model year. But haven't you noticed that the prices of new cars on the lots seem to climb every year? Yes, that's right folks, while it costs car makers less to build the car each year, you end up paying more each year. Fun stuff right? It gets better...
2) Cars now are being designed to be more and more disposable. They're average life expectancy is about 10 years (if you're lucky, and depending on which SPEC and which part requirements you're referring to. Some parts are more, some are less). That means if it takes you 72 months to pay it off, you're warranty conveniently lasts only that long. As soon as its paid off, its depreciated to the point that its next to worthless on a trade. So you tell yourself, "well I'll just keep it and run it into the ground, right?" That's a good idea, because you'll only get another 3-4 years out of it before it rusts, components fail, and things wear out. Sure, well maintained they'll last a long time, I'm simply referring to component's life cycles
3) Hearing people talk about "working the bugs out" always makes me chuckle. The first model year is typically way over engineered just to get the new model out to showrooms on time. OEM suppliers scramble, and are still in the process of ramping up new production lines and tools. So when they say bugs need "worked out" it is simply the growing pains of people like us being handed down ungodly deadlines that are near impossible to hit. By the time a car hits the end of its model line (like the 2014 F150's for example) OEM suppliers and the Automaker have done so many cost savings projects to reduce their costs to make these things, that its literally sickening to see the prices on these things. I understand this is capitalism, but when we save money, we have to pass the savings a long to the customers, yet the big automakers don't have to pass their savings along to us, the consumers.
Cars are not an investment, they're an expense. Don't let anyone tell you any differently. I work in this industry, so call me bitter, but I'm just telling you the harsh truths of buying that shiny new car. So yes, I find it hilarious that people on here with brand new 2013's and 2014's are already talking about trading in their trucks. Hey, if you've got the money, go for it! Your loss, not mine!
That all being said, I love the 2015 concept, and I need a truck. Yes, I've seen some features (that I'm not allowed to share here) that I'm not crazy about, but all and all I plan on getting one. My 2006 will be at the end of its life cycle for me so hopefully I'll pick up a 2016 as soon as the incentives start coming out.
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♫♪ I Hold On ♫♪
For me it will depend of if 1. I can get a good price, 2. if I like them. I love my 08 so it's going to be kind of hard to let go..but I'm very excited, that's for sure!
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I'm just waiting to see what it looks like. I'm not brand loyal at all; drove the new Ram and it was real nice, Tundra upgraded the Interior and much better now to go along with that stout 5.7, GM lol no way, new Titan might also be bad *** so I have to wait and see. If it looks like the concept, strong chance I'll buy.
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Anyone heard if they will keep the blue flame for 2015? This should have been set up as a poll. Idea here
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