Who is buying a 2015?
01-07-2014, 12:51 AM
#22
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I got a 13 in September so ill be keeping it for around 3 years. After that I'll pick up the latest probably a King Ranch. By that time the kinks will be out. To who ever asked when its revealed, this month at the Detroit show... soon!
01-07-2014, 01:02 AM
#23
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I'm buying a new truck this fall and will be deciding between the 15 Ford and the Ram Eco Diesel. I currently own 3 Ford trucks and look forward to the Atlas but something about the Ram intrigues me. I know there are many haters but I'm impressed by their out of the box thinking in regards to the diesel platform and rear coils.
I've been reading up on the early tuners for the eco diesel and they are making good power and economy.
I've been reading up on the early tuners for the eco diesel and they are making good power and economy.
01-07-2014, 01:39 AM
#24
"Why Leave it Stock?"
I won't be, sorry to say. As much as I am a die-hard Blue Oval guy, I just hate the Atlas. I mean, it's cool, but it's not the F-150. It should be the Ranger's replacement, taking it's spot next to the bestselling truck that is the F-150.
01-07-2014, 06:44 AM
#25
Just got by 13 in september...and though its tempting, i agree with most everyone...first model year is not something i really want to have to deal with. Plus...the wife would hand me my *** if i said i wanted into a new truck without putting some real miles on her...the truck that is lol.
01-07-2014, 07:21 AM
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I'm kind of like acdie; just don't like looks of that Atlas. As for getting a '15, well, I reckon ye could say I'm due since I'm still in my '02! Lucres, it's a matter of lucres, plain and simple. If I had enough, I'd be in. I really don't think it will have many or even no bugs. Not software here (except that crazy thingamajig) to go wrong, just frame, body I think.
Hey look , this is my 777th post! That's got to have some kind of deep meaning somewhere. Hmmmm, has to have something to do with a new truck, ye think?
Hey look , this is my 777th post! That's got to have some kind of deep meaning somewhere. Hmmmm, has to have something to do with a new truck, ye think?
01-07-2014, 07:24 AM
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Mine will be 4 years old by then. Maybe I'll change...probably not. Ford is pricing me out of the new truck market.
Heck...my FX2 went up $9,000 in two model years. Can't afford a new one anymore.
Heck...my FX2 went up $9,000 in two model years. Can't afford a new one anymore.
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01-07-2014, 08:38 AM
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As an engineer working in the Automotive industry, let me shed some light on this topic, because working in this industry it makes me a little sick when I see the prices of the finished product sitting on the lots.
1) I'm a big Ford truck guy, so this is not meant to bash Ford, just the Auto industry in general (they're all guilty). OEM suppliers have to sell components to build any new vehicle with cascading sales. That means the parts HAVE to get less expensive every model year. But haven't you noticed that the prices of new cars on the lots seem to climb every year? Yes, that's right folks, while it costs car makers less to build the car each year, you end up paying more each year. Fun stuff right? It gets better...
2) Cars now are being designed to be more and more disposable. They're average life expectancy is about 10 years (if you're lucky, and depending on which SPEC and which part requirements you're referring to. Some parts are more, some are less). That means if it takes you 72 months to pay it off, you're warranty conveniently lasts only that long. As soon as its paid off, its depreciated to the point that its next to worthless on a trade. So you tell yourself, "well I'll just keep it and run it into the ground, right?" That's a good idea, because you'll only get another 3-4 years out of it before it rusts, components fail, and things wear out. Sure, well maintained they'll last a long time, I'm simply referring to component's life cycles
3) Hearing people talk about "working the bugs out" always makes me chuckle. The first model year is typically way over engineered just to get the new model out to showrooms on time. OEM suppliers scramble, and are still in the process of ramping up new production lines and tools. So when they say bugs need "worked out" it is simply the growing pains of people like us being handed down ungodly deadlines that are near impossible to hit. By the time a car hits the end of its model line (like the 2014 F150's for example) OEM suppliers and the Automaker have done so many cost savings projects to reduce their costs to make these things, that its literally sickening to see the prices on these things. I understand this is capitalism, but when we save money, we have to pass the savings a long to the customers, yet the big automakers don't have to pass their savings along to us, the consumers.
Cars are not an investment, they're an expense. Don't let anyone tell you any differently. I work in this industry, so call me bitter, but I'm just telling you the harsh truths of buying that shiny new car. So yes, I find it hilarious that people on here with brand new 2013's and 2014's are already talking about trading in their trucks. Hey, if you've got the money, go for it! Your loss, not mine!
That all being said, I love the 2015 concept, and I need a truck. Yes, I've seen some features (that I'm not allowed to share here) that I'm not crazy about, but all and all I plan on getting one. My 2006 will be at the end of its life cycle for me so hopefully I'll pick up a 2016 as soon as the incentives start coming out.
1) I'm a big Ford truck guy, so this is not meant to bash Ford, just the Auto industry in general (they're all guilty). OEM suppliers have to sell components to build any new vehicle with cascading sales. That means the parts HAVE to get less expensive every model year. But haven't you noticed that the prices of new cars on the lots seem to climb every year? Yes, that's right folks, while it costs car makers less to build the car each year, you end up paying more each year. Fun stuff right? It gets better...
2) Cars now are being designed to be more and more disposable. They're average life expectancy is about 10 years (if you're lucky, and depending on which SPEC and which part requirements you're referring to. Some parts are more, some are less). That means if it takes you 72 months to pay it off, you're warranty conveniently lasts only that long. As soon as its paid off, its depreciated to the point that its next to worthless on a trade. So you tell yourself, "well I'll just keep it and run it into the ground, right?" That's a good idea, because you'll only get another 3-4 years out of it before it rusts, components fail, and things wear out. Sure, well maintained they'll last a long time, I'm simply referring to component's life cycles
3) Hearing people talk about "working the bugs out" always makes me chuckle. The first model year is typically way over engineered just to get the new model out to showrooms on time. OEM suppliers scramble, and are still in the process of ramping up new production lines and tools. So when they say bugs need "worked out" it is simply the growing pains of people like us being handed down ungodly deadlines that are near impossible to hit. By the time a car hits the end of its model line (like the 2014 F150's for example) OEM suppliers and the Automaker have done so many cost savings projects to reduce their costs to make these things, that its literally sickening to see the prices on these things. I understand this is capitalism, but when we save money, we have to pass the savings a long to the customers, yet the big automakers don't have to pass their savings along to us, the consumers.
Cars are not an investment, they're an expense. Don't let anyone tell you any differently. I work in this industry, so call me bitter, but I'm just telling you the harsh truths of buying that shiny new car. So yes, I find it hilarious that people on here with brand new 2013's and 2014's are already talking about trading in their trucks. Hey, if you've got the money, go for it! Your loss, not mine!
That all being said, I love the 2015 concept, and I need a truck. Yes, I've seen some features (that I'm not allowed to share here) that I'm not crazy about, but all and all I plan on getting one. My 2006 will be at the end of its life cycle for me so hopefully I'll pick up a 2016 as soon as the incentives start coming out.
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01-07-2014, 09:51 AM
#29
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Not me! I just bought a 2014 last month, and like others have said the first model year is usually problematic.
01-07-2014, 10:47 AM
#30
Some interesting responses for sure. I will see how much more the '15 will be and decide from there. I really love the '11-14 style so I may just get a '14.
(Or even better, just keep my '11 since it has all of 21k on it... LOL)
Will just have to wait and see what the market is like this fall and roll the dice from there. My dealer is ordering me a '14 white fx4 on the last order of the year, so I will have my choice on what I want to get if anything.
(Or even better, just keep my '11 since it has all of 21k on it... LOL)
Will just have to wait and see what the market is like this fall and roll the dice from there. My dealer is ordering me a '14 white fx4 on the last order of the year, so I will have my choice on what I want to get if anything.