funnyman06

At no point was this argument made that 2WD is better than 4x4 with the same tires. The original question had to do with a 2wd BMW with snow tires vs the F150 with the stock HTs. Of course if you had a RWD BMW and an AWD BMW with the same tires the AWD will handle better in the snow (assuming they arnt summer tires). This however was not the question.
The stock tires are not very good in the snow or on ice. The tires he has on the BMW are phenomenal.

If the OP had posted photos of 2ft of un-plowed snow on the ground, that might be a different story, but that wasn't and isn't the situation.

wiread

You're right, they do. It's like they'll take a question, then form their own argument, then tell everyone to disregard the actual question. For instance, I have Blizzaks and 2wd and a truck with 4wd and crappy tires, which will I do better in light snow cover (pic provided) and someone will argue up and down and then tell people to disrgard tire type like it's not important. LOL

acdii

LOL Someone who actually READ and COMPREHENDED the OP's post!

I can't believe how many are arguing over this nonsense when the OP asked a simple straight forward question, and the answer was simple and straight forward as well. Makes it quite clear, who read and comprehended, and who just post to show arrogance.

Napalm

I'll say it again - unless you put weight in the back of your 4 x 4 truck, regardless of the tires you have you are worse off than a car with a 50/50 weight distribution and similar tires.

note I say similar tires not to get on the whole winter/snow tires vs ALL seasons vs _____.

If the temp is below 20 and stays that way for a entire month or more you should probably consider running a dedicated winter tire. Even ALL Seasons don't cope with that well. That doesn't happen where I live so I don't worry about it and run ALL seasons.

Meanwhile that weight bit - has as much to do with the go - as it does with the whoa and the turn. with your light rear end - even on the right tires when it comes to brake you can put so much on your front that you lose the rear. Turns - same sort of issue.

In the 50/50 car it's evenly footed and can indeed use the rear wheels for some braking and it is less likely to loose the rear on turns. Yes even when those turns are at 30 MPH. Which is why I often pass 4 x 4 somethings on the side of the road in my RWD sport salon when driving on packed ice and snow.

MOST - not all, most truck drivers don't think about having the weight in the back which is the bigger problem.

oh and while not said - thoughtful driving is as important or more important than tire choice. even winter tires have limits on ice.

elricfate

Truth. 4x4 go does not mean 4x4 stop. Tire loses its ability to appropriately "bounce" when it gets below 45*F, exponentially so when it gets that much colder. Winter tires are not only a little more tread-happy, they're also a different rubber formulation so you're not riding around on frozen concrete with hard plastic tires.

AricsFX

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Glad I never have to deal with this conundrum...

elricfate

To punctuate that point: https://jalopnik.com/a-guide-to-how-...res-1821780963

elricfate

Removed pot stirring post. Carry on.

jhelrey

My Honda Civic with winter tires all of the way around was easier to drive in low or icy snow than my truck is.

funnyman06

Where is the fun in that? Lol at this point the thread could probably just be closed, if someone doesn't have their answer after all this nothing will change their mind one way or another.