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Old 02-16-2019, 08:31 AM
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Sounds like your issue is more with the dealers servicing it. If it would have been fixed correctly the first time you brought it in you could say you really only had minor issues with it.
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This was something I was just thinking about this morning. I have a 2018 bought over last summer, late May build date and I hate this thing. To the point I've started to think about trading it in for a 2019 Ram. My last 2 trucks were Ford which I kept for a long period of time relatively trouble free but in less then a year it has the warped dash, transmission shifts horribly making driving not enjoyable, and now I have the locks freezing. It's been into the dealer a few times, they don't do anything that is helpful, in fact my doors are worse after they simply "re-greased" door locks this past week. $40,000+ dollar vehicle and you can't even open the doors when cold out or if they do, won't latch shut, a dash that has more wave than a ripples potato chip, and a transmission that shifts like a 16 year old kid with their first manual transmission.

I think you would be crazy to trade it in for another Ford. I'm also not trying to bash (was having fun a little at the end there) but this experience has left such a bad taste in my mouth and I haven't had as many problems as you are mentioning, especially after giving them multiple times to fix your issues. I would either purchase an extended warranty if your fine with continually taking your truck in and being unhappy when you drive it or take the loss if financially able too and try out a different manufacturer that you have interest in. How long do you normally keep your vehicles for? Good luck with whatever you decide, I can completely understand your frustration and the predicament you are in.
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Old 02-16-2019, 09:06 AM
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This was something I was just thinking about this morning. I have a 2018 bought over last summer, late May build date and I hate this thing. To the point I've started to think about trading it in for a 2019 Ram. My last 2 trucks were Ford which I kept for a long period of time relatively trouble free but in less then a year it has the warped dash, transmission shifts horribly making driving not enjoyable, and now I have the locks freezing. It's been into the dealer a few times, they don't do anything that is helpful, in fact my doors are worse after they simply "re-greased" door locks this past week. $40,000+ dollar vehicle and you can't even open the doors when cold out or if they do, won't latch shut, a dash that has more wave than a ripples potato chip, and a transmission that shifts like a 16 year old kid with their first manual transmission.

I think you would be crazy to trade it in for another Ford. I'm also not trying to bash (was having fun a little at the end there) but this experience has left such a bad taste in my mouth and I haven't had as many problems as you are mentioning, especially after giving them multiple times to fix your issues. I would either purchase an extended warranty if your fine with continually taking your truck in and being unhappy when you drive it or take the loss if financially able too and try out a different manufacturer that you have interest in. How long do you normally keep your vehicles for? Good luck with whatever you decide, I can completely understand your frustration and the predicament you are in.
Like I said getting an all new powertrain is risky. So is getting the first model year of a full redesign, think twice about that all new Ram in it's first model year. Out of the pot and into the fire as the saying goes.
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Another good reason to lease.... I would get another vehicle if I were you, whether it's another F150, or something else.
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Originally Posted by dalola
Another good reason to lease.... I would get another vehicle if I were you, whether it's another F150, or something else.
I normally would never suggest leasing, and in the past would have never thought about it. But honestly, with the cost of these new vehicles, and the companies continually trying out new motors/powertrains to give the consumer more HP and better MPG I really think it may be the way to go. I drive quite a bit and the leases always seem like such low distances, however, in the future I will probably sit down and look at lease buy out options vs over mileage turn ins. I would be much happier getting out of a vehicle at the end of a lease that I ended up being unhappy with and mostly likely paying for the extra miles instead of paying big bucks and keeping a truck for 10 years that I hate driving everyday because they were still working the kinks out of a new transmission for example.
Dalola, I think you bring up a pretty good option for OP and others who are nervous about jumping both feet into a new vehicle (no matter the manufacturer), especially after getting burned.
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Based on what you're saying, it's probably a lemon if you're still within your state's guidelines. I'd explore that first rather than take the financial hit personally for Ford's horse**** quality. If you're out of the lemon law eligibility period, still try with Ford but expect that you'll get denied. Then it's whether or not you want a lawyer (a lot of BS and time/frustration). If you don't want a lawyer, dump it and get something else. Once you've hit the point that you no longer enjoy driving it and feel regretful about your purchase, it's time for something else. Try your options first, then trade it. You probably hit the "enough is enough" threshold awhile ago.
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I would take it to another dealer, buy an extended b2b warranty from someone like flood ford, and roll on. Get the oil pan fixed, get the IWE fixed at a competent dealer (I know, I know its like pulling teeth), replace your vacuum check valve, re-up on the warranty, and give it a little longer while hopefully recouping on some depreciation hits.
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First call Ford and request an extended warranty, second contact a law firm that deals with lemon laws and get the process started BEFORE you hit 36K, once you hit 36K the buyback/lemon law is null and void and your only course is to sue for breach of warranty. Once the legal process is over, you will either come out several grand ahead, or a method to swap out without taking it in the teeth. This is the route I chose with the 16 POS I had, though I missed the 36K mark by several grand before I filed, so I know it is a mistake to wait. I came out with $7400 to use towards paying down negative equity and getting a replacement without having to roll anything over or taking out of savings.

If you decide to keep it, then you have a 75K warranty and some cash to use. You have a good enough case to file, so go for it, you have very little to lose, maybe a few hundred for an inspection and court costs, but a good law firm will easily get you a settlement.
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Thank you for all the replies. I haven’t considered lemon law because the truck is 2 years old and has 35k. I will have to look into the extended warranty. Money is always a concern, however, I can afford to trade it in it will just put construction on building a house further back. Which is not something I want to do at all but will if I have to. This was suppose to be the truck that I would keep to 200k and be able to have a few years without a payment to save for house. Thanks for the advise
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Originally Posted by 05lariat4x4
Thank you for all the replies. I haven’t considered lemon law because the truck is 2 years old and has 35k. I will have to look into the extended warranty. Money is always a concern, however, I can afford to trade it in it will just put construction on building a house further back. Which is not something I want to do at all but will if I have to. This was suppose to be the truck that I would keep to 200k and be able to have a few years without a payment to save for house. Thanks for the advise
Call an attorney and find out if you still qualify. Usually the time period is determined by when the problem was first reported. You still have to file within 3 years 36K though. I'd just call around first thing Monday and see if there's a chance you still have a case.


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