Haven't done my F150 brakes yet but did the fronts on my wife's Edge this past winter. Got pads and rotors at Auto Zone, pads are lifetime warranty and rotors are two year (no mileage factor) warrenty. Pads and rotors about $150.
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Originally Posted by GT_80
(Post 5450529)
I think you are right... I slammed the brakes a few times, and tried a few hard controlled stops so the abs would not kick in. That seemed to help considerably. I will cancel my service appt and save the money/
FYI I have to do this on a pretty regular basis. (1-2 times a month) I'm getting better brakes when I need them. I'm pretty easy on my brakes most of the time. I coast to stop most of the time. (total opposite of my wife) |
Originally Posted by BlackBoost
(Post 5450824)
They checked tire balance the first time I brought it in for the vibration and they were good. They also checked the alignment, and then they turned the rotors. Good dealership (Team Ford). anywho - you might have a different issue but try the occasionally hard brake - like doing it in a parking lot or whatever makes you comfortable. |
Originally Posted by Napalm
(Post 5453650)
Maybe their guy ran the lugs downs with a impact gun over torque. Incidentally I hate torque sticks but that's another rant.
anywho - you might have a different issue but try the occasionally hard brake - like doing it in a parking lot or whatever makes you comfortable. |
Has anyone tried just scuffing their rotors and putting some aftermarket ceramic pads on to fix this issue? I am not opposed to putting some drilled/slotted rotors on with better pads, but it would be cheaper to just sand my rotors which are still in pretty good shape, and put some decent ceramic pads or ebc's or something.
I guess i could just try and let you know, but wanted to see if anyone has tried already. typically I have just used the AutoZone Duralast Gold ceramic pads, and I have had good luck with those. They last a long time, and stop great. |
Originally Posted by todd92
(Post 5449486)
Brake pad deposition.
Just make sure you clean off the rotor surface after sanding them..... :thumbsup: |
Originally Posted by Napalm
(Post 5450691)
Worse you've taken say one full minute to stop from say 45. Not I don't have the numbers on the temps but let's say at the end of the stop you've touched 800 degrees F. and let's say your pad's breakdown temp is 1100. In theory you shouldn't have an issue - but that pad dust might well get soft. Under the pad - where it's pressed to the rotor - at the stop sign for 3 minutes or more. over time you get a bit of a ridge there, etc etc
....been there done that lol |
Since this thread has had a few new replies, I'll report in on my adjusted driving habits.
I am now braking a little later and a little harder, and it seems to be keeping my brake issues away. It felt like it was only the right front rotor that did it, but it's been mostly staying away when I do this later/harder braking thing. It comes back if I go a day or two without following this new regimen. This lends credence to the suspicion that my brake issues are related to pad material deposition. -John |
further aside - since it was brought up in this thread.
1) not all of what stoptech puts in their myth page is true either. Remember they are selling you on their parts too. Which are made in china - Stoptech is Centric. 2) Drilled rotors. Don't bother. Drilled rotors do little to nothing for modern pads and stopping ability. They might look cool but it doesn't help the pads outgas. Because modern ceramic pads don't outgas. Unless made correctly where the holes are drilled and reamed in 2 operations - they are prone to cracking in extremes. 3) slotted rotors. I recommend these but only to people that race. It isn't really for DD use. SLots if done right - sweep the pad face and help evacuate pad dust off the pad/rotor interface. It can also reduce the chance of pad glazing due to high heat. They make more noise - they eat pads a bit more - and they cost more. Unless you road course your F150 I wouldn't use a set on one. I do however use a set on my 4 door family car. 4) brake fluid - change that rot out after year 2. Brake fluid gathers water vapor once exposed - from there it created organic acids. (I had to ask a chemist - acids that contain Oxygen, Carbon and Hydrogen) Aside from becoming acid and damaging - the boiling point decreases over time to the point where it becomes possible to boil the fluid behind the caliper piston. This leads to spongy brakes and could be a bad day when you need it. I say trade at year 2, and every 2 years after or at the very least - get some test strips and test your fluid. However what's in the reservoir is not the quality of what's in the caliber or worse your expensive ABS control module. I flush mine after 2 years new - then every 2-3 depending on the car. (I use my brakes very hard on my DD) |
Originally Posted by Napalm
(Post 5536276)
further aside - since it was brought up in this thread.
1) not all of what stoptech puts in their myth page is true either. Remember they are selling you on their parts too. Which are made in china - Stoptech is Centric. 2) Drilled rotors. Don't bother. Drilled rotors do little to nothing for modern pads and stopping ability. They might look cool but it doesn't help the pads outgas. Because modern ceramic pads don't outgas. Unless made correctly where the holes are drilled and reamed in 2 operations - they are prone to cracking in extremes. 3) slotted rotors. I recommend these but only to people that race. It isn't really for DD use. SLots if done right - sweep the pad face and help evacuate pad dust off the pad/rotor interface. It can also reduce the chance of pad glazing due to high heat. They make more noise - they eat pads a bit more - and they cost more. Unless you road course your F150 I wouldn't use a set on one. I do however use a set on my 4 door family car. 4) brake fluid - change that rot out after year 2. Brake fluid gathers water vapor once exposed - from there it created organic acids. (I had to ask a chemist - acids that contain Oxygen, Carbon and Hydrogen) Aside from becoming acid and damaging - the boiling point decreases over time to the point where it becomes possible to boil the fluid behind the caliper piston. This leads to spongy brakes and could be a bad day when you need it. I say trade at year 2, and every 2 years after or at the very least - get some test strips and test your fluid. However what's in the reservoir is not the quality of what's in the caliber or worse your expensive ABS control module. I flush mine after 2 years new - then every 2-3 depending on the car. (I use my brakes very hard on my DD) |
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