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Old 01-08-2016, 01:10 PM
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A 10 speed in 2017 will cause me to trade my 14 for a 16.
opposite here, the 10 will keep boost UP!
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So, the run-of-the-mill 2017 3.5EB is supposed to be a CGI block, but the Raptor's 3.5EB HO is aluminum? I was surprised when I read the aluminum-block announcement about the Raptor (from multiple sources) because I expected the CGI to move up to the 3.5 but figured they were doing it that way because it's the engine for the GT. I'm surprised they'd have 2 different NEW castings for the same displacement in the same model year, though, but I guess with the Raptor and certainly the GT being high-priced lower-volume stuff it could work if there's a strong reason for it.
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So, the run-of-the-mill 2017 3.5EB is supposed to be a CGI block, but the Raptor's 3.5EB HO is aluminum? I was surprised when I read the aluminum-block announcement about the Raptor (from multiple sources) because I expected the CGI to move up to the 3.5 but figured they were doing it that way because it's the engine for the GT. I'm surprised they'd have 2 different NEW castings for the same displacement in the same model year, though, but I guess with the Raptor and certainly the GT being high-priced lower-volume stuff it could work if there's a strong reason for it.
You found a poor site. Only old or uninformed sites are reporting anything like this. Drone sights designed only to get you to advertisers.

Believe me compacted iron graphite blocks will be for the raptor as well.
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Damn. Guess I'd better hurry up and get one if I want a 5.0. I'd hate to buy a first year design displacement on demand 5.0. I wonder if they'll go with direct injection while they're at it, if they do go with cyl deactivation...
Like I mentioned, this is two years away. Ford might decide not to do so, who knows. Ive been out of the game for a while.

But, with 2025 coming up soon, OEMs are doing everything to get the AVG MPG that CAFE demands, since the limits IMO, are unrealistic.
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I am!!! Looks like a bunch of trolls pissed they already bought. Yup the 17 is bringing in the compacted iron graphite block and same timing chain set up as the 2.7. As well as port and direct injection Basically all the praise the 2.7 gets over the 3.5 will be coming to the 3.5 in less than a year. Personally I'd rather have the 6spd trans. It's well geared and always in the right gear. I'm happy with that. I'm extremely excited. Can't wait to get mine. If any of this is doubted do your own Google search. You'll find it.

Future screw lariat 4x4 sunroof 3.5 ecoboost owner.
You're lucky, you will not be getting a rattling sunroof/moonroof on that time!
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You found a poor site. Only old or uninformed sites are reporting anything like this. Drone sights designed only to get you to advertisers.

Believe me compacted iron graphite blocks will be for the raptor as well.
I ignored blog and unknown-provenance clickbait sites... while they were indeed early-2015 articles, the ones I actually gave credence that were reporting a "new aluminum block" for the HO version in the Raptor and Ford GT were Road & Track and Car and Driver. What reputable sites have you found reporting a CGI block for all new 2017+ 3.5 Ecoboosts? Ford's own press releases don't mention it, for example.

I'm not suggesting that it's not a reasonable assumption, I just haven't found any evidence of it. Point me to some useful articles that aren't showing up on searches.
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Like I mentioned, this is two years away. Ford might decide not to do so, who knows. Ive been out of the game for a while.

But, with 2025 coming up soon, OEMs are doing everything to get the AVG MPG that CAFE demands, since the limits IMO, are unrealistic.
Understood. I will take it with a grain of salt. 15 months till the house is paid off, if things go according to plan. Was planning to get in debt on a truck after I get out of debt on the house. Don't mess up mah plan with cylinder deactivation! Lol
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I'm pretty sure the HO Raptor 3.5 EB and the 2nd gen 'normal' 3.5 EB share little in common. The Raptor motor is reported to have an Aluminum block along with totally different crank, rods, pistons and dual direct and port injection. etc. The 2nd gen 'normal' one will have a CGI block and just direct injection and will basically be a punched out 2.7.
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Originally Posted by GearheadGeek View Post
I ignored blog and unknown-provenance clickbait sites... while they were indeed early-2015 articles, the ones I actually gave credence that were reporting a "new aluminum block" for the HO version in the Raptor and Ford GT were Road & Track and Car and Driver. What reputable sites have you found reporting a CGI block for all new 2017+ 3.5 Ecoboosts? Ford's own press releases don't mention it, for example.

I'm not suggesting that it's not a reasonable assumption, I just haven't found any evidence of it. Point me to some useful articles that aren't showing up on searches.
There are no guarentees. However, most give this credence. And seeing as this is the newest tech in the 2.7 with awesome results you would rather assume it's not what there doing?
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There are no guarentees. However, most give this credence. And seeing as this is the newest tech in the 2.7 with awesome results you would rather assume it's not what there doing?
Actually, as I said in my earlier post you dismissed with "You found a poor site." (suggesting that you'd seen some credible site stating otherwise) I had expected them to move to a CGI block when they eventually refreshed the 3.5 Ecoboost and was surprised about the announcement of an aluminum block for the HO Ecoboost. I haven't been able to find any reporting that supports my initial assumptions so I question my assumptions and continue seeking evidence. I find that one learns more that way.
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