Airborne_Ape

deleted. just realized this thread is MFT lol

dhonnoll

What do the Sync Alert wires do? Where does the other end of them go? Do they take 12v + and - input to wake up? Do they take a temporary + and - to wake up? Do they send out a + and - 12 volt to wake up other devices? What do they actually do? I am trying to go from Non Sync to sync2 or Sync 3 with an old style connector. I think the answer I lack is in my 16 pin but not sure. I almost had it. I just couldn't get the APIM to wake up. I wound up giving the Sync 3 unit to my wife who has Sync 3 going to experiment with her Sync 2 unit to get this to work in min now that my dash looks like it puked all over my jump seat and floor board might as well figure this out then search for another Sync 3 unit for later.

TexasFording

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You're trying to go from sync (OG sync with the 2" screen) to sync 2/3?

dhonnoll

No, I went from No Sync, to Sync 1 (which is no screen at all) it functioned I did not take the radio out of donor truck so it gives an ACM CFG ERR on start up but everything works so I DON'T CARE. I scored a Sync 3 unit salvage and attempted to put it in ( I also ripped as much of the wire harness as I could from donor car) I couldn't get it to come on. At the beginning of this thread the person who posted lists what each pin does, what he had to swap from Sync 1 4" screen to Sync3 he mentions a Sync Alert + and - cable I forget which pins they are on, from the donor car it was a shielded cable (both wires under the same cable) I want to know what that does or what I mght be missing that wakes sync up. I gave the Sync 3 unit to my wife and her 2013 Explorer with Sync 2. I still have her unit. I may give up and sell hers and get a nice PCP9800A or some EONON or something. I BELIEVE what I may be missing is in the truck harness that is the 16 pin on my old unit (understand my old unit is the old 2004-2008 style wire harness since it is such a BASE radio. When I went to Sync 1, It was basically power, ground, power and ground to Sync/GPS module. Plug the 16 pin from SYNC into the radio, Plug wihte and white/blue into high speed can bus, plug the medium speed can bus into 16 pin harness still in truck. Take Sync USB and SYNC audio hack plug those into hub and it works.
I was able to get the Sync 3 module to power on, and see it with ForScan but not able to get it to wake up. I want to know what the SYNC Alert wires do if they are 12v or 5v input or output. IT appears they are not 12v input I tried that. Amazingly did not burn up the Sync 3 unit. What I mean to say is Sync pins 3 and 4 what do they actually do? Does anyone know?

nerdh3rd

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The Sync Alert wires are simply audio + and - wires. Not sure if they are for backup sensor beeps or some other alerts from the unit itself, but they do nothing for what you're describing. You need proper CAN bus communication for the module to wake up, which I'm not sure you can get without ripping out your whole dash and replacing everything with components from a newer year.

dhonnoll

Its a 2013 so Sync 2 WOULD have been an option. Sync 1 wakes up fine but works totally diferent. I wonder if there isn't something OTHER than the RTC that acts as the ACM and not the dash bezel and in this case I am just missing that ACM since I am not using my old radio.

nerdh3rd

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Ryan Theodore

Is it still available?

Sainte

how did your project turn out?

i have the screen and APIM. I plan on buying the bezel from a junk yard if possible. I am also going to contact a few places like 4dtech and see if the sell just the conversion harness.

paul302

Hey I see this was an old post but Just in case anyone else needs the 4" to 8" harness its easy to make one. I did all the research on the wiring and did the upgrade.
There are three caveats.
1) The original radio has to have SYNC 1 or 2. (You'll know you have sync 1 or 2 if you can answer your phone through the car.)
2) The original radio is NOT the Sony. (will not work with the Sony)
3) this is for Non-Navagation. May work for Nav but untested.

Here's what you'll Need:
Harness on Amazon $32.00;
(OCSTAR 54 Pin Apim Connector Sync 1 Ford Camera Input Harness Cable Extension)
Wire Tool on Amazon $6.00;
(kweiny Auto Terminals Removal Key Tool Set Car Electrical Wiring Crimp Connector Extractor)
Backup Camera Harness Ebay $11:00; -"Only needed if you have a backup camera."
(FORD Multi 2011-UP Factory Backup Camera Retention Harness RH-0007)

Instructions;
The first thing you'll need to know is, how to move wires in a harness. It’s very simple this Utube video will show you how. Fast forward the video to 5:15 to see the exact harness you’ll be working with, (54 pin)
Note: in the Video he uses a screw drive. I Strongly suggest you buy the 6-dollar tool listed above, its easier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB6KcLSCAGU
Or search U-tube for; Ford Quick Tips #62: Rebuilding Electrical Connectors

Now for the important Part. The wire pin outs.
All the wires being move will be on the female side of your new harness.
1) Remove the black tape from the wires.
2) Remove the cover from female side of the Harness, as shown in video.
3) Find pin one and label it with tape.
The way you can find pin one is by knowing that the camera wire that is connected to the harness,(with the Yellow plug on it) is on pin 14 and 15. of the male side of the harness. knowing that you count back to pin one. Then trace the cable up to the female side and mark it with tape.
4) Note; each row has 18 wires: The low number always starts at the same side.
Here are the wires that get moved.

Description Pin Move Instructions
Move the pin on the female side from pin 6 to pin 13
Move the pin on the female side from pin 5 to pin 12
Move the pin on the female side from pin 17 to pin 20
Move the pin on the female side from pin 16 to pin 19
Move the pin on the female side from pin 29 to pin 31
Move the pin on the female side from pin 47 to pin 28
Move the pin on the female side from pin 46 to pin 11
Move the pin on the female side from pin 45 to pin 10
Move the pin on the female side From pin 44 to pin 9
All other wires stay the same.

5)Connect your new harness to the existing harness and then to the back of your new APIM.
6) connect the $11.00 Backup Camera Harness to the cable. (The small connector that connected to your old APIM). Plug the other end into the yellow camera lead.
7) Connect all other cables to their original connections and your done with wiring.
(2 cables to the top of the Bezel and 2 cables to the lower part of the Bezel)

8) Forscan - you need to configure the ACM with Forscan. If you don't. Everything will work except your phone. You wont be able to hear the other person. Im not going to tell you how to use forscan. Lots out there already but here are the the codes to plug in:
727-01-01 9800 1800 8060
727-01-02 0300 34
727-02-01 5B8C
727-03-01 1446
727-04-01 0003 0255 53E0