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Old 03-06-2016, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Livoniabob
Even I at times wish I had a nice loud set of train horns... Like when stuck behind someone in the left lane doing 60 in a 70 and taking on their cell phone.
I empithise with that wish. It is a whole next level to plan on doing so. Hold on, we are still talking about train horns?

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Old 03-06-2016, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tenacious
I addressed this in post #30
If you insist.

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The 2015 Florida Statutes
Title XXIII
MOTOR VEHICLESChapter 316*
STATE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROLView Entire Chapter

316.293 Motor vehicle noise.—

(1) DEFINITIONS.—The following words and phrases, when used in this section, shall have the meanings respectively assigned to them in this subsection, except where the context otherwise requires:

(a) “dB A” means the composite abbreviation for the A-weighted sound level and the unit of sound level, the decibel.

(b) “Gross combination weight rating” or “GCWR” means the value specified by the manufacturer as the loaded weight of a combination vehicle.

(c) “Gross vehicle weight rating” or “GVWR” means the value specified by the manufacturer as the loaded weight of a single vehicle.

(d) “Sound level” means the A-weighted sound pressure level measured with fast response using an instrument complying with the specification for sound level meters of the American National Standards Institute, Inc., or its successor bodies, except that only A-weighting and fast dynamic response need be provided.

(e) “Department” means the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.

(2) OPERATING NOISE LIMITS.—No person shall operate or be permitted to operate a vehicle at any time or under any condition of roadway grade, load, acceleration, or deceleration in such a manner as to generate a sound level in excess of the following limit for the category of motor vehicle and applicable speed limit at a distance of 50 feet from the center of the lane of travel under measurement procedures established under subsection (3).

(a) For motorcycles other than motor-driven cycles:*Sound level limit*Speed limit
35 mph or lessSpeed limit
over 35 mphBefore January 1, 197982 dB A86 dB AOn or after
January 1, 197978 dB A82 dB A

(b) For any motor vehicle with a GVWR or GCWR of 10,000 pounds or more:*Sound level limit*Speed limit
35 mph or lessSpeed limit
over 35 mphOn or after
January 1, 197586 dB A90 dB A

(c) For motor-driven cycles and any other motor vehicle not included in paragraph (a) or paragraph (b):*Sound level limit*Speed limit
35 mph or lessSpeed limit
over 35 mphBefore January 1, 197976 dB A82 dB AOn or after
January 1, 197972 dB A79 dB A

(3) MEASUREMENT PROCEDURES.—The measurement procedures for determining compliance with this section shall be established by regulation of the Department of Environmental Protection as provided in s.*403.415(9), in cooperation with the department. Such regulations shall include the selection of measurement sites and measurement procedures and shall take into consideration accepted scientific and professional methods for the measurement of vehicular sound levels. The measurement procedures may include adjustment factors to be applied to the noise limit for measurement distances of other than 50 feet from the center of the lane of travel.

(4) APPLICABILITY.—This section applies to the total noise from a vehicle and shall not be construed as limiting or precluding the enforcement of any other provisions of this chapter relating to motor vehicle mufflers for noise control.

(5) NOISE ABATEMENT EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS.—

(a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.

(b) No person shall operate a motor vehicle upon the highways of the state with an exhaust system or noise-abatement device so modified.

(6) EXEMPT VEHICLES.—The following are exempt from the operation of this act:

(a) Emergency vehicles operating as specified in s.*316.072(5)(a).

(b) Any motor vehicle engaged in a professional or amateur sanctioned, competitive sports event for which admission or entry fee is charged, or practice or time trials for such event.

(c) Any motor vehicle engaged in a manufacturer’s engineering, design, or equipment test.

(d) Construction or agricultural equipment either on a job site or traveling on the highways.

(7) VIOLATIONS.—A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.

History.—s. 4, ch. 74-110; s. 32, ch. 76-31; s. 2, ch. 78-280; s. 28, ch. 79-65; s. 136, ch. 94-356; s. 16, ch. 97-300; s. 205, ch. 99-248.
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Originally Posted by rdinatal
If you insist.

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The 2015 Florida Statutes
Title XXIII
MOTOR VEHICLESChapter 316*
STATE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROLView Entire Chapter

316.293 Motor vehicle noise.—

(1) DEFINITIONS.—The following words and phrases, when used in this section, shall have the meanings respectively assigned to them in this subsection, except where the context otherwise requires:

(a) “dB A” means the composite abbreviation for the A-weighted sound level and the unit of sound level, the decibel.

(b) “Gross combination weight rating” or “GCWR” means the value specified by the manufacturer as the loaded weight of a combination vehicle.

(c) “Gross vehicle weight rating” or “GVWR” means the value specified by the manufacturer as the loaded weight of a single vehicle.

(d) “Sound level” means the A-weighted sound pressure level measured with fast response using an instrument complying with the specification for sound level meters of the American National Standards Institute, Inc., or its successor bodies, except that only A-weighting and fast dynamic response need be provided.

(e) “Department” means the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.

(2) OPERATING NOISE LIMITS.—No person shall operate or be permitted to operate a vehicle at any time or under any condition of roadway grade, load, acceleration, or deceleration in such a manner as to generate a sound level in excess of the following limit for the category of motor vehicle and applicable speed limit at a distance of 50 feet from the center of the lane of travel under measurement procedures established under subsection (3).

(a) For motorcycles other than motor-driven cycles:*Sound level limit*Speed limit
35 mph or lessSpeed limit
over 35 mphBefore January 1, 197982 dB A86 dB AOn or after
January 1, 197978 dB A82 dB A

(b) For any motor vehicle with a GVWR or GCWR of 10,000 pounds or more:*Sound level limit*Speed limit
35 mph or lessSpeed limit
over 35 mphOn or after
January 1, 197586 dB A90 dB A

(c) For motor-driven cycles and any other motor vehicle not included in paragraph (a) or paragraph (b):*Sound level limit*Speed limit
35 mph or lessSpeed limit
over 35 mphBefore January 1, 197976 dB A82 dB AOn or after
January 1, 197972 dB A79 dB A

(3) MEASUREMENT PROCEDURES.—The measurement procedures for determining compliance with this section shall be established by regulation of the Department of Environmental Protection as provided in s.*403.415(9), in cooperation with the department. Such regulations shall include the selection of measurement sites and measurement procedures and shall take into consideration accepted scientific and professional methods for the measurement of vehicular sound levels. The measurement procedures may include adjustment factors to be applied to the noise limit for measurement distances of other than 50 feet from the center of the lane of travel.

(4) APPLICABILITY.—This section applies to the total noise from a vehicle and shall not be construed as limiting or precluding the enforcement of any other provisions of this chapter relating to motor vehicle mufflers for noise control.

(5) NOISE ABATEMENT EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS.—

(a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle or any other noise-abatement device of a motor vehicle operated or to be operated upon the highways of this state in such a manner that the noise emitted by the motor vehicle is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.

(b) No person shall operate a motor vehicle upon the highways of the state with an exhaust system or noise-abatement device so modified.

(6) EXEMPT VEHICLES.—The following are exempt from the operation of this act:

(a) Emergency vehicles operating as specified in s.*316.072(5)(a).

(b) Any motor vehicle engaged in a professional or amateur sanctioned, competitive sports event for which admission or entry fee is charged, or practice or time trials for such event.

(c) Any motor vehicle engaged in a manufacturer’s engineering, design, or equipment test.

(d) Construction or agricultural equipment either on a job site or traveling on the highways.

(7) VIOLATIONS.—A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.

History.—s. 4, ch. 74-110; s. 32, ch. 76-31; s. 2, ch. 78-280; s. 28, ch. 79-65; s. 136, ch. 94-356; s. 16, ch. 97-300; s. 205, ch. 99-248.
so signaling devices now fall under exhaust statutes?, lol, next please
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Originally Posted by tanked_darren
What opinions did I have that was incorrect? The only opinion I shared was:

I also read one of your ramblings and said "retard alert" because you are fighting this battle on your own. No matter how much you justify train horns for road use everyone is just going to think "retard" I was just saying what every other poster is thinking.
I don't have any friends from Ontario. Why are you so mad?


I thank you sir for speaking for this entire forum, except me of course.
Your opinion is that I will get my vehicle vandalized or my *** beat because of a loud horn. you resorted to calling me a retard because my views are different than yours. I mentioned your "friends" in Ontario because I stereotyped you with your fellow Canadians because they have shown a complete incompetence in basic driving skills while operating motor vehicles here in south Florida. Maybe if I throw the word "aye" after every sentence, you would comprehend?
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Originally Posted by retro02
Looks like someone need to take anger management training before it's too late.
this **** is comedy to me, if you think i'm mad, you are sadly mistaken
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Originally Posted by ecopat
The train horns might be for stress relief purposes?
I rarely get stressed these days, Time spent in a sandbox with towel heads attempting to kill me has increased my stress levels slightly higher than most "normal" people. This here is all laughs on my end, sorry you saw it different.
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Originally Posted by Livoniabob
Even I at times wish I had a nice loud set of train horns... Like when stuck behind someone in the left lane doing 60 in a 70 and taking on their cell phone.
I feel your pain, but even irrational, immature me, probably wouldn't use an air horn in that situation. While driving slow in the fast lane is a frustrating inconvenience, causing me to make drastic defensive maneuvers to avoid rear ending or being side swiped by the inattentive idiots takes precedence.
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Originally Posted by tenacious
so signaling devices now fall under exhaust statutes?, lol, next please
It says Operating Noise Limit, not max exhaust db, doesn't it?
And to your previous point of fire trucks at the parade, they are clearly exempted.

Oh, and please dont believe any of us take your sh*t too seriously either...
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Originally Posted by tenacious
so signaling devices now fall under exhaust statutes?, lol, next please
Are you not operating the vehicle? It's a noise statute.

"APPLICABILITY.—This section applies to the total noise from a vehicle and shall not be construed as limiting or precluding the enforcement of any other provisions of this chapter relating to motor vehicle mufflers for noise control."

How dense are you? I can't wait to see how you spin the next reply to justify what you want. Go ahead, do what you want. I will not defend you when you get your *** curb stomped with a dose of non-internet reality.

I really started out nice, not going any further.

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Originally Posted by ecopat
It says Operating Noise Limit, not max exhaust db, doesn't it?
And to your previous point of fire trucks at the parade, they are clearly exempted.

Oh, and please dont believe any of us take your sh*t too seriously either...
Read the statutes you posted, they are clearly talking about exhaust and not signaling devices. I understand they are exempted from the "signaling device" statutes I posted as well as the exhaust statutes you posted. I was mocking the people saying that they would be deaf after hearing a train horn at 100'.


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