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Old 02-10-2014, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KBS

It's official. Ford confirmed it when unveiling the 2015 F150. Several articles state it. Lots of info on google. Toyota has been doing it for a few years already.
Parse the press release like a corporation that has a vested interest in being able to differentiate models to charge more. Plus the fact that your limits are set not by power but by handling and the basic handling is the same across engines. This makes me very skeptical of your interpretation that ratings will be set to the maximum that passes the standard.

I expect ford to tell them what the max load should be and that is an that will get tested. Because frankly I don't think the test is that difficult for any of the v8 or eco motors with even a 3.31 rear to pass at 10,000 lbs. Do you think ford is likely to give up the additional revenue of a gear upgrade?
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Yup. My 5.4 was rated for 9600lbs. I wouldn't attempt it. This one I have now- 9950. Not on your life.
11,300 with MAX tow.

Once again, this will not be the limiting factor- it will be the GAWR! Even a trailer weighing 9,000 pounds, would put 15-20% of that on the ball (1,350 - 1,800 lbs), ergo the rear axle.

If the GAWR is 4050, a fully fulled (unhitched) truck weighs 2750, the remaining space is then 4050-2750, or 1300. How then can we get by 8,666 lbs then exactly??

Ford fan here, but let's be real. Anything north of 9,000 towing is fluff.
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Originally Posted by Platinum_Sean
11,300 with MAX tow.

Once again, this will not be the limiting factor- it will be the GAWR! Even a trailer weighing 9,000 pounds, would put 15-20% of that on the ball (1,350 - 1,800 lbs), ergo the rear axle.

If the GAWR is 4050, a fully fulled (unhitched) truck weighs 2750, the remaining space is then 4050-2750, or 1300. How then can we get by 8,666 lbs then exactly??

Ford fan here, but let's be real. Anything north of 9,000 towing is fluff.
Agree 100%. Tow ratings seem to be just the ability to accelerate.
My Travel trailer is 5300lbs dry, 6000-6500lbs loaded and with 3 people and some bicycles in the bed and thats it for me. I wouldnt want anything heavier.
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Originally Posted by Platinum_Sean

11,300 with MAX tow.

Once again, this will not be the limiting factor- it will be the GAWR! Even a trailer weighing 9,000 pounds, would put 15-20% of that on the ball (1,350 - 1,800 lbs), ergo the rear axle.

If the GAWR is 4050, a fully fulled (unhitched) truck weighs 2750, the remaining space is then 4050-2750, or 1300. How then can we get by 8,666 lbs then exactly??

Ford fan here, but let's be real. Anything north of 9,000 towing is fluff.
Yeah, that's exactly what I mean. My TT is 5500lbs ready to camp and I am over my GVWR by a chunk with my family in the truck ready to camp, but under my axles.
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Indeed, GVWR minus actual truck weight gives you the maximum payload which usually is the limiting factor in real world (i.e. legal) tow ratings, even more so than GAWR which typically provide a little additional leeway. Maximum tow ratings by all the truck manufacturers seem to designed with magically non-existent trailer tongue weight in mind.

With the significant weight reduction in the new F150, the real question becomes how much of that will Ford translate into increased payload?
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Max towing also requires weight distributing hitch. Its surprising how many people overlook this. Without the WDH I think its only like 5500# that you can tow. I forget the exact number....its written right on the receiver.
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Originally Posted by 2013SCREW
Max towing also requires weight distributing hitch. Its surprising how many people overlook this. Without the WDH I think its only like 5500# that you can tow. I forget the exact number....its written right on the receiver.
That is true.
I do use a WDH hitch while towing 6000-6500lbs, but I still wouldn't do more.
However i'm towing a travel trailer, which is no fun if they start wagging.
I would imagine an open car trailer with similar weight would tow alot better.
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Originally Posted by 2013SCREW
Max towing also requires weight distributing hitch. Its surprising how many people overlook this. Without the WDH I think its only like 5500# that you can tow. I forget the exact number....its written right on the receiver.
5000 is the max with factory hitch regardless of your tow rating. So many people overlook this.
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Originally Posted by KBS

5000 is the max with factory hitch regardless of your tow rating. So many people overlook this.

The factory receiver is good up to the max that ford rates your truck as long as you properly use a weight distributing hitch with it. There are typically two numbers written right on it. One for without WDH and one for with WDH.
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Originally Posted by Ftruck150
How about an air bag suspension like the Ram? For when towing heavy loads
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