Time for tires. Which ones?
#11
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I recently installed Michelins (LT285/70R17) and previously had Yoko Geolandar G015 (LT285/R20). The Michelin is slightly larger than the Yoko. My highway mileage improved about 0.7 MPG (16.5 MPG), but in town mileage is the same at 13.5. The best mileage on my vehicle with OEM tires was 16.7 MPG highway (275/55R20 Hankook DynaPro). My truck is rated for 15/21.
Ride quality is night & day difference (i.e. better).
My first choice was the Firestone Destination LE, but it is not offered in my size. It rates higher than the Michelin. I spent a lot of time reviewing the Michelin Aglis CrossClimate. The UPS driver's in my area use the Crossclimate 2, which is bidirectional tread without a mileage warranty. The UPS trucks are getting 40-50K on the tires and the driver's love them. The standard Crossclimate is a one-way tread which does not work well for uniform tire wear on a truck.
One complaint about Michelin Defender. The tread blocks are in a row with large spacing between treads. The straight line pattern results in tire wallowing on sections of pavement with seams in the direction of travel or on steel bridges.
Ride quality is night & day difference (i.e. better).
My first choice was the Firestone Destination LE, but it is not offered in my size. It rates higher than the Michelin. I spent a lot of time reviewing the Michelin Aglis CrossClimate. The UPS driver's in my area use the Crossclimate 2, which is bidirectional tread without a mileage warranty. The UPS trucks are getting 40-50K on the tires and the driver's love them. The standard Crossclimate is a one-way tread which does not work well for uniform tire wear on a truck.
One complaint about Michelin Defender. The tread blocks are in a row with large spacing between treads. The straight line pattern results in tire wallowing on sections of pavement with seams in the direction of travel or on steel bridges.
#12
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I too, am looking for tires for a set of summer wheels. Michelin tires compound seems to harden as the tires age, making them ride rough. I’ve been looking at Pirelli Scorpions AS + 3 . They have a 70,000 mile warranty and have good reviews. If you are a Sams Club member, you can get $80 dollars off plus free mounting/ balance this weekend. That also applies to certain Goodyear and BF Goodrich tires. They say Black Friday and Cyber Monday is a good time to buy tires.
#13
I got the General Grabber UHP performance tires (v rated). Directional but very well priced , they are sticky as hell, and evacuate rain water like no other. I'm gonna try them through this new england winter and see how they fair. I highly recommend them.
#14
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Last edited by autoworker; 11-08-2021 at 07:20 AM.
#15
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I'm needing a new set of shoes too but for farm use I can't use these smooth passenger type tires the guys down south can.
Right now what I'm seeing the most economical replacements for me looks to be the Firestone destination at2.
But I'm having a hard time swallowing another Firestone tire after I had a set of ATX tires that every tire separated with 40% tread remaining back sometime in the early 90s.
Those tires were junk and they knew it.
Yet I buy their firestone Ag tires and have very few issues.
Right now what I'm seeing the most economical replacements for me looks to be the Firestone destination at2.
But I'm having a hard time swallowing another Firestone tire after I had a set of ATX tires that every tire separated with 40% tread remaining back sometime in the early 90s.
Those tires were junk and they knew it.
Yet I buy their firestone Ag tires and have very few issues.
#16
I'm needing a new set of shoes too but for farm use I can't use these smooth passenger type tires the guys down south can.
Right now what I'm seeing the most economical replacements for me looks to be the Firestone destination at2.
But I'm having a hard time swallowing another Firestone tire after I had a set of ATX tires that every tire separated with 40% tread remaining back sometime in the early 90s.
Those tires were junk and they knew it.
Yet I buy their firestone Ag tires and have very few issues.
Right now what I'm seeing the most economical replacements for me looks to be the Firestone destination at2.
But I'm having a hard time swallowing another Firestone tire after I had a set of ATX tires that every tire separated with 40% tread remaining back sometime in the early 90s.
Those tires were junk and they knew it.
Yet I buy their firestone Ag tires and have very few issues.
Are the Michelin LTX A/T2s not aggressive enough for you? They're certainly more beefy than the Defenders. I've been happy so far.
#17
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I agree with autoworker. You won't like them in New England cold weather, much less snow. Those are ultra high performance summer tires. The tread compound becomes very hard in cold temperatures (fairly noticeable even at 50°) and you will have little traction. Some brand UHP tires will even chunk the tread edges if driven in cold weather.
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#18
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The Michelins are quite expensive here in Canada, I used to have Michelins they always went more miles than the other brands.
#19
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You won't regret going with the Falkens. I have had a set on my truck for a little over 4 years and 25k miles. Lots of tread left, and no noticeable degradation in performance. They have been great and have easily handled whatever situation/weather has been thrown their way. The absolute only negative is they have a small amount of tread hum at highway speeds; I expected this since they are a slightly aggressive A/T tire.
#20
Senior Member
I'm needing a new set of shoes too but for farm use I can't use these smooth passenger type tires the guys down south can.
Right now what I'm seeing the most economical replacements for me looks to be the Firestone destination at2.
But I'm having a hard time swallowing another Firestone tire after I had a set of ATX tires that every tire separated with 40% tread remaining back sometime in the early 90s.
Those tires were junk and they knew it.
Yet I buy their firestone Ag tires and have very few issues.
Right now what I'm seeing the most economical replacements for me looks to be the Firestone destination at2.
But I'm having a hard time swallowing another Firestone tire after I had a set of ATX tires that every tire separated with 40% tread remaining back sometime in the early 90s.
Those tires were junk and they knew it.
Yet I buy their firestone Ag tires and have very few issues.