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Old 02-11-2019, 02:33 PM
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From my experience, Ford will supply you with a "remanufactured" engine. I was told "NEW" engines are only for vehicles in the current model year.
In my case the first rebuilt was defective, so the dealer requested if a NEW long block was possible. However that is when they found that "remanufactured" was the only option available.
Since your truck is a 2016, you'll get a rebuilt unit.
FWIW, when I went through this, 5.0 blocks were scarce and all 3 of mine came from somewhere in the southern states.
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Originally Posted by Dutchmanxtr
From my experience, Ford will supply you with a "remanufactured" engine. I was told "NEW" engines are only for vehicles in the current model year.
In my case the first rebuilt was defective, so the dealer requested if a NEW long block was possible. However that is when they found that "remanufactured" was the only option available.
Since your truck is a 2016, you'll get a rebuilt unit.
FWIW, when I went through this, 5.0 blocks were scarce and all 3 of mine came from somewhere in the southern states.
That was my understanding too but the service manager swore up and down that they couldn't get a remanufactured long block for my truck because it was too new and that the engine they ordered was brand new because that was all they could get.
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Originally Posted by Dutchmanxtr
From my experience, Ford will supply you with a "remanufactured" engine. I was told "NEW" engines are only for vehicles in the current model year.
In my case the first rebuilt was defective, so the dealer requested if a NEW long block was possible. However that is when they found that "remanufactured" was the only option available.
Since your truck is a 2016, you'll get a rebuilt unit.
FWIW, when I went through this, 5.0 blocks were scarce and all 3 of mine came from somewhere in the southern states.
Dutchman:
If you don't mind me asking what was the problem you experienced with both of your engines?
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The part number you gave was for a new service engine complete with heads, timing cover and water pump, sheet metal, plugs and sensors (no intake, exhaust or fuel system). If the install is performed at an authorized Ford dealer and is for warranty, then the engine will be registered with Ford for the vehicle warranty update. If the vehicle was out of warranty and you purchased the engine, then it would be covered by the Ford Service Parts Warranty which is also covered by Ford. Ford requires an extensive paper trail so it's pretty hard to fudge this one. If a Ford dealer gives you a receipt that says they installed this part number and they did not, then they can be be penalized by Ford and possibly loose their franchise license. Just ask for a copy of your receipt with warranty information for your records. Good luck!
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VIN numbers are no longer stamped on blocks. Pretty sure that ended in the 70's.
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Originally Posted by gopherman View Post
Dutchman:
If you don't mind me asking what was the problem you experienced with both of your engines?
Long block replacement #1.......only lasted for a few days. Noticed power loss, engine lights, eating coolant, actually hydro-locked right at the dealer. After dismantling engine, the tech found the heads were not torqued properly. Some bolts were barely hand tight. Engine was running on a nice oil/coolant mix.
Long block #2.......the dealer wouldn't even give me the truck back. It had a good knocking sound from the bottom end. Con rod / piston issue
Long block # 3......ran OK
These were complete assemblies, valve covers, water pump, pan, etc. Only thing they had to install were the exh manifolds, intake and ignition parts.

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Originally Posted by Dutchmanxtr View Post
Long block replacement #1.......only lasted for a few days. Noticed power loss, engine lights, eating coolant, actually hydro-locked right at the dealer. After dismantling engine, the tech found the heads were not torqued properly. Some bolts were barely hand tight. Engine was running on a nice oil/coolant mix.
Long block #2.......the dealer wouldn't even give me the truck back. It had a good knocking sound from the bottom end. Con rod / piston issue
Long block # 3......ran OK
These were complete assemblies, valve covers, water pump, pan, etc. Only thing they had to install were the exh manifolds, intake and ignition parts.

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Wow...I give you credit for putting up with 3 engine replacements. What was wrong with the original engine that made them put in the first long block?

I thought I was crazy thinking that I got a defective brand new engine even though I know it happens. Glad to know it's uncommon but not impossible. I'd hope QA would catch these before they make their way off the line.
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I am not quite sure what you are asking or suspecting. At any rate any work that was done at a Ford dealer (warranty or otherwise) can be looked up in their database by VIN. That would be the place to start looking.
This. They have extensive records on my truck. I got a new engine under my extended warranty 13 days after I bought my truck used from them. (almost 3 years ago) The receipt they gave me listed a general list of what they did. Removed and replaced long block, transferring components from old long block, etc. But my 4 page invoice is 20 pages in their system.

My invoice does not mention that they opened the rear diff and changed the fluid, or that they did a fluid change on my trans when diagnosing the issues, because they didn't charge me for it. But they have it in the system. They even had the photos of the trans filter cut open, my oil filter cut open, pics of the metal shavings in the pan and when they opened up my right valve cover. That's what they had to send to the warranty company to get the new (reman) engine approved.

The dealership ate the cost of the diff and trans work since I had my truck for less than 2 weeks. They even ate the deductible.

They will know when any warranty ends to the day and mile as well. My extended warranty was up last year due to mileage. I got warranty repairs done when I had less than 100 miles left on the warranty. (drive shaft clunk, and window motor)
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Originally Posted by gopherman View Post
They said it was a long block. GL3Z-6006-B was the ordered part.
Just for trivia, I looked up one of my work orders. It reads Service engine assembly #BL3Z*6006*BARM T60-N. Along with that, it has a serial number for that particular block, so it looks like the engines do have a tracking number.
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The "RM" in the BARM series indicates that it's a remanufactured engine. Yes, the engine has a serial number and it is registered to your VIN number for the powertrain warranty.
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