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Is there a fuel reserve when DTE=0, Needle on E?

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Old 07-30-2018, 02:55 PM
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The owners manual implies there's an "unspecified fuel reserve" once DTE=0. Anyone know if this is true?

Just curious if DTE=0 gives you any meaningful reserve. (on some vehicle I've seen as much as 50 miles of range left once DTE=0 and needle at E)

Anyone know the approx reserve on a F150 w/36 gallon tank on level ground. (I have no intention of pushing my luck, but curious if there is a meaningful reserve).
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Originally Posted by davefr
The owners manual implies there's an "unspecified fuel reserve" once DTE=0. Anyone know if this is true?

Just curious if DTE=0 gives you any meaningful reserve. (on some vehicle I've seen as much as 50 miles of range left once DTE=0 and needle at E)

Anyone know the approx reserve on a F150 w/36 gallon tank on level ground. (I have no intention of pushing my luck, but curious if there is a meaningful reserve).
I don't have any specifics, but recently had a scenario where I got a lot lower than usual. my DTE was down to 16 miles when I got to a town with a gas station. I filled up and had 33.x gallons go in on a 36 gal. tank. So i'm guessing there is a bit of a cushion there and I hope I don't come that close to it again I like to fill it up a bit sooner than that point.
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DTE is a calculated value, I would not rely on it to prevent running out of gas in the first place.

That said, I've been 50+ miles after it hit '0' and still only put in 33 gallons.
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This week 50 DTE and put in only 30 gallons.
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I've ran my 2018, with a 36 gallon tank, to DTE=0 and determined there was about 2 gallons left upon filling the tank.

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When I was trying to test drive the F150 I actually bought, it was parked nose down on a decent downslope on the dealers lot. It started but died, then would not start. DTE was about 25 or so IIRC. Point is, if parked on a slope nose down, ain't gonna start and run long enough to get anywhere.
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Yes, there is, but keep in mind that the tank is long, narrow, and along the main axis of the vehicle. That extra capacity is to ensure the fuel pump can actually pick up the fuel... run it way low, then get on an incline (or worse, a decline) and you're going to have a bad time.

Running that low is also bad on the fuel pump, since it will no longer be submerged in fuel and will thus run much hotter.
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Originally Posted by tvsjr
Yes, there is, but keep in mind that the tank is long, narrow, and along the main axis of the vehicle. That extra capacity is to ensure the fuel pump can actually pick up the fuel... run it way low, then get on an incline (or worse, a decline) and you're going to have a bad time.

Running that low is also bad on the fuel pump, since it will no longer be submerged in fuel and will thus run much hotter.
Excellent points! When I took my 2018 to DTE=0 it was local 2 to 3 mile short trips per day. No way I would let that happen under normal driving conditions.

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Originally Posted by tvsjr
Yes, there is, but keep in mind that the tank is long, narrow, and along the main axis of the vehicle. That extra capacity is to ensure the fuel pump can actually pick up the fuel... run it way low, then get on an incline (or worse, a decline) and you're going to have a bad time.

Running that low is also bad on the fuel pump, since it will no longer be submerged in fuel and will thus run much hotter.
I have always considered the truck to have 5% reserve. So 1.8 gallons on a 36 gallon tank. So put me in he category of ~2 gallons in reserve. I figure it’s a percentage of something.
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I rented a Focus and it ran out on the highway (flat and level) with 17km dte left on the display.


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