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Whos got one and how do you like it? Over all driveability, fuel mileage? Thinking had about getting one, once they come out in XLT trim. Just looking for some feed back and any information. Thanks!
As a Fleet, we can purchase the 3.0L diesel in XLT Trim. Unfortunately, I still couldn't make the ROI work based on the yet unknown resale value of the diesel. Although everyone assumes the diesel will bring a higher resale, that has yet to be proven and when submitting a business case, assumptions that can't be validated don't work. Regardless of what the manufacturer claims, in our testing we never saw over 24-25 MPG. Our 5.0L and 3.5L Ecoboost F150s routinely get 19-20 MPG.
Concerning the price of oil changes, this is a very valid point. The 3.0L diesel uses a different engine oil than the 6.7L diesel. Most dealerships can't justify adding this product to their bulk oils for a still yet TBD population of the 3.0L diesel. Therefore, they have to use packaged product which increases the cost of the oil change.
Now add in the cost of DEF and fuel filter changes and the cost of routine maintenance of the 3.0L diesel quickly exceeds a gasoline engine. Couple that with the increased initial investment of the 3.0L diesel and the numbers just don't work.
They won't be in XLT trim anytime soon, unless you're a fleet buyer. Considering diesel, tonight, was 60 cents a gallon more than *premium*, I can't imagine who would want one.
Looked hard at them, got to drive one around. Good torque from idle, great around town. I noticed however that in top gears on the highway with a little rise it needed to downshift where the gas did not. Great to tow light weight trailers and for someone who drives alot.
now, by the time you pay for that motor, the higher fuel costs, after muffler fluid, it would take many years to break even.
As a Fleet, we can purchase the 3.0L diesel in XLT Trim. Unfortunately, I still couldn't make the ROI work based on the yet unknown resale value of the diesel. Although everyone assumes the diesel will bring a higher resale, that has yet to be proven and when submitting a business case, assumptions that can't be validated don't work. Regardless of what the manufacturer claims, in our testing we never saw over 24-25 MPG. Our 5.0L and 3.5L Ecoboost F150s routinely get 19-20 MPG.
Concerning the price of oil changes, this is a very valid point. The 3.0L diesel uses a different engine oil than the 6.7L diesel. Most dealerships can't justify adding this product to their bulk oils for a still yet TBD population of the 3.0L diesel. Therefore, they have to use packaged product which increases the cost of the oil change.
Now add in the cost of DEF and fuel filter changes and the cost of routine maintenance of the 3.0L diesel quickly exceeds a gasoline engine. Couple that with the increased initial investment of the 3.0L diesel and the numbers just don't work.
As a Fleet, we can purchase the 3.0L diesel in XLT Trim. Unfortunately, I still couldn't make the ROI work based on the yet unknown resale value of the diesel. Although everyone assumes the diesel will bring a higher resale, that has yet to be proven and when submitting a business case, assumptions that can't be validated don't work. Regardless of what the manufacturer claims, in our testing we never saw over 24-25 MPG. Our 5.0L and 3.5L Ecoboost F150s routinely get 19-20 MPG.
Concerning the price of oil changes, this is a very valid point. The 3.0L diesel uses a different engine oil than the 6.7L diesel. Most dealerships can't justify adding this product to their bulk oils for a still yet TBD population of the 3.0L diesel. Therefore, they have to use packaged product which increases the cost of the oil change.
Now add in the cost of DEF and fuel filter changes and the cost of routine maintenance of the 3.0L diesel quickly exceeds a gasoline engine. Couple that with the increased initial investment of the 3.0L diesel and the numbers just don't work.
Several other limitations of the 3.0L diesel:
Not available with Max tow pkg
Not available with HDPP
Not available with Load Range C or E tires
Not available with 36 Gal. fuel tank
Great info as always, cant believe The 3.0 doesn’t share the same oil spec as the bigger brothers..........
I really struggle where this spec fits other than those who say “I want a diesel”
I really struggle where this spec fits other than those who say “I want a diesel”
That's pretty much it. You wouldn't want this with HDPP for towing purposes, because a fully laden trailer at near max allowable trailer weight for an F150 would result in this dog working pretty noticeably hard versus the 5.0 and 3.5 ecoboost. It's a small diesel with commensurate small diesel numbers, and I think just a box checked off with the manufacturer to compete with others who have a half-ton diesel option (and those ram ecodiesel guys who think their half tons are 3/4 ton trucks towing 10,000lb trailers with 1300lbs payload).
I have one. Really like it. MPG is about 22-23 city and when on the hwy. jumps up to 26-28. This is all from the truck not hand calculated. Should improve some and the motor breaks in. It take a cartridge type filter that sits in on top of the engine not a traditional spin on. FL-2081 I think is the part number. I have seen them for as little as 5.95 on the net.
12-28-2018, 11:26 PM
So whos got a 3.0 Powerstroke?
