Retrofit tow mirrors with Blis to my 2018 XLT
#1
Retrofit tow mirrors with Blis to my 2018 XLT
Just purchased a 2018 F150, XLT, 4x4, FX4, max tow, has Blis w/trailer tow monitoring. Did not have tow mirrors. The Blis seems to work so far, just driving around town. I will be towing my enclosed car trailer (24 ft, v-nose, 8.5 ft wide) occasionally (5-10 times a year) and would like extending tow mirrors. Been reading soooo much on tow mirrors and the F150 past few years, my head is spinning. Seems maybe Blis and tow mirrors co-existing have changed a little. Apparently my XLT cannot come from factory with Blis and tow mirrors, but the higher end models (Lariat, etc) can. So my goal is to replace my current mirrors (power, manual fold, blis, led spotlights) with tow mirrors that have blis, spotlight, manual telescope and fold.
Anybody know if this Ford mirror might work (plug and play) for me? : https://www.fordgenuineautoparts.com...MtNWwtdjYtZ2Fz
It has a rear facing camera, which my current mirrors don't have, but if the rest of the functions will work, I might be ok with it. Could not find a Ford part# that doesn't have at least one camera that also has Blis. I guess that's because the mirrors came only on the higher end F150 models, that also came with more cameras.
Anyway, any thoughts and suggestions much appreciated!
Anybody know if this Ford mirror might work (plug and play) for me? : https://www.fordgenuineautoparts.com...MtNWwtdjYtZ2Fz
It has a rear facing camera, which my current mirrors don't have, but if the rest of the functions will work, I might be ok with it. Could not find a Ford part# that doesn't have at least one camera that also has Blis. I guess that's because the mirrors came only on the higher end F150 models, that also came with more cameras.
Anyway, any thoughts and suggestions much appreciated!
#2
Senior Member
I'm guessing the biggest issue you'll have is the wiring/circuits....they won't match. If you want everything to work, better be good reading wiring schematics.
Otherwise, physically they should bolt right on.
Otherwise, physically they should bolt right on.
#3
Senior Member
I don't think that is an issue. Take one off to see if you have an 8 pin or 22 pin harness at the door. With BLIS I think a 22 pin should be there. The reason I told you to post here there are many more knowledgable than I that know what is or is not plug and play with Forscan.
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#4
You're not going to find a trailer tow mirror with power fold and power extend that's going to be plug-n-play for your XLT.
The XLT lacks 6 wires in the cab harness to support power extend. The door harnesses lack all wiring to support power fold and power extend. Door modules would need to be programmed to support power fold. Window switch also would need to be changed.
The XLT lacks 6 wires in the cab harness to support power extend. The door harnesses lack all wiring to support power fold and power extend. Door modules would need to be programmed to support power fold. Window switch also would need to be changed.
#5
You're not going to find a trailer tow mirror with power fold and power extend that's going to be plug-n-play for your XLT.
The XLT lacks 6 wires in the cab harness to support power extend. The door harnesses lack all wiring to support power fold and power extend. Door modules would need to be programmed to support power fold. Window switch also would need to be changed.
The XLT lacks 6 wires in the cab harness to support power extend. The door harnesses lack all wiring to support power fold and power extend. Door modules would need to be programmed to support power fold. Window switch also would need to be changed.
I appreciate your response, and have seen some threads/videos of doors opened up, switches and modules replaced, to get many new functions. Not my goal.
Ford really laid an egg on this.
#6
You're confused...
the rear facing camera they are referring to is on the tailgate. Those mirrors are power fold and extend.
Ford does not offer a manual fold and extend trailer tow mirror with BLIS.
You also need to be careful. Later build 2018 F150s have relocated the AAT sensor from behind the grill to the RH mirror.
the rear facing camera they are referring to is on the tailgate. Those mirrors are power fold and extend.
Ford does not offer a manual fold and extend trailer tow mirror with BLIS.
You also need to be careful. Later build 2018 F150s have relocated the AAT sensor from behind the grill to the RH mirror.
Last edited by tmcolegr; 07-05-2018 at 06:01 PM.
#7
You're confused...
the rear facing camera they are referring to is on the tailgate. Those mirrors are power fold and extend.
Ford does not offer a manual fold and extend trailer tow mirror with BLIS.
You also need to be careful. Later build 2018 F150s have relocated the AAT sensor from behind the grill to the RH mirror.
the rear facing camera they are referring to is on the tailgate. Those mirrors are power fold and extend.
Ford does not offer a manual fold and extend trailer tow mirror with BLIS.
You also need to be careful. Later build 2018 F150s have relocated the AAT sensor from behind the grill to the RH mirror.
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Ford's descriptions are notoriously inaccurate. That's why you should always order off of a VIN# that has the options you want. Here's a copy of the SSM that defines the AAT sensor relocation and I have attached a document that although part #s don't apply to 2018s, the rest of the document is accurate.
SSM 47342 - 2018 F150 Excluding Raptor - Ambient Air Temperature (AAT) Sensor Located in Exterior Mirror - Built On Or After 10-Mar-2018
2018 F150 vehicles excluding Raptor built at Dearborn Truck Plant on or after 26-Feb-2018 and at Kansas City Assembly Plant on or after 10-Mar-2018 have the AAT sensor located in the right exterior mirror. The AAT sensor was relocated from the front grill/fascia area. The AAT sensor is serviced separately from the mirror. Refer to Ambient Air Temperature Sensor GSB G0000178 for additional information.
SSM 47342 - 2018 F150 Excluding Raptor - Ambient Air Temperature (AAT) Sensor Located in Exterior Mirror - Built On Or After 10-Mar-2018
2018 F150 vehicles excluding Raptor built at Dearborn Truck Plant on or after 26-Feb-2018 and at Kansas City Assembly Plant on or after 10-Mar-2018 have the AAT sensor located in the right exterior mirror. The AAT sensor was relocated from the front grill/fascia area. The AAT sensor is serviced separately from the mirror. Refer to Ambient Air Temperature Sensor GSB G0000178 for additional information.
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TOY$SPEED, I am having the same issue, max trailer tow with regular mirrors with bliss want to swap to the bigger trailer tow mirrors like you vwith no power just led puddle and heat, so eithert the 8 or 22 pin. I don't need bliss to work, it was a feature that came with the truck, my question is will it work if I clear the bliss code using an obd2 scanner and forskin, or am I screwed with a late 2018 build due to the AAT sensor on the driver side mirror, What would happen if i just did not care or connect he AAT sensor?
Or if i go with clip/slip ons will they affect anything like bliss/puddle/AAT/Turn Signal ETC,,,,???
Lastly is there a clip on model brand anyone recommends? found a bunch and they all have 5 stars which is always a red flag for me.
Or if i go with clip/slip ons will they affect anything like bliss/puddle/AAT/Turn Signal ETC,,,,???
Lastly is there a clip on model brand anyone recommends? found a bunch and they all have 5 stars which is always a red flag for me.
Just purchased a 2018 F150, XLT, 4x4, FX4, max tow, has Blis w/trailer tow monitoring. Did not have tow mirrors. The Blis seems to work so far, just driving around town. I will be towing my enclosed car trailer (24 ft, v-nose, 8.5 ft wide) occasionally (5-10 times a year) and would like extending tow mirrors. Been reading soooo much on tow mirrors and the F150 past few years, my head is spinning. Seems maybe Blis and tow mirrors co-existing have changed a little. Apparently my XLT cannot come from factory with Blis and tow mirrors, but the higher end models (Lariat, etc) can. So my goal is to replace my current mirrors (power, manual fold, blis, led spotlights) with tow mirrors that have blis, spotlight, manual telescope and fold.
Anybody know if this Ford mirror might work (plug and play) for me? : https://www.fordgenuineautoparts.com...MtNWwtdjYtZ2Fz
It has a rear facing camera, which my current mirrors don't have, but if the rest of the functions will work, I might be ok with it. Could not find a Ford part# that doesn't have at least one camera that also has Blis. I guess that's because the mirrors came only on the higher end F150 models, that also came with more cameras.
Anyway, any thoughts and suggestions much appreciated!
Anybody know if this Ford mirror might work (plug and play) for me? : https://www.fordgenuineautoparts.com...MtNWwtdjYtZ2Fz
It has a rear facing camera, which my current mirrors don't have, but if the rest of the functions will work, I might be ok with it. Could not find a Ford part# that doesn't have at least one camera that also has Blis. I guess that's because the mirrors came only on the higher end F150 models, that also came with more cameras.
Anyway, any thoughts and suggestions much appreciated!