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Old 04-21-2017, 12:15 PM
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Two (2) recommendations. Keep in mind that the newer generation F-150 is approximately 700 lbs. lighter. You may be driving too fast for road conditions. You can add a few hundred pounds of weigh in the bed. I noticed with my 2016 that my truck rides significantly better with 4 to 5 hundred pounds of added weight. You could experiment with different shocks but I don't think you will accomplish much.
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I learn something new everyday here. I totally thought there was a typo and the set was $1,700. But nope. It wasn't just the price of mountain bike shocks but the idea that someone can charge a lot more for truck components because the truck overall costs a whole lot more than a mountain bike.

Now I gotta ask this about 200# in the bed. I have a 36-gallon tank, but my intention all along was to fill it up to about 20 pounds unless I was on a road trip or towing. This was to save some weight. The extra gas might be 100 pounds, at 6 pounds per gallon. And this was all so I didn't use extra fuel hauling around another useless 100 pounds. Now you're thinking an extra 200 pounds in the bed on a daily basis? I'm guessing is the trade off of a better handling truck outweighs fuel economy?
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The "set" in the OP is actually just a pair of shocks, not a set of four. A rear set, I guess.

And trucks that have aluminum bodies with rear axle spring rates to carry 1000 lbs/ 1/2-ton are going to need a good-quality *damper* to control the stiffer spring when it rebounds. I disagree with so-and-so who said "...You could experiment with different shocks but I don't think you will accomplish much." Once a quality shock absorber is fitted, it will better control also the weight of the wheels/tires and axle when the bed is empty. Sure! everything rides nicer when it's heavier; that's a given. But why add unnecessary weight to drive to work or grab a bag of groceries?

Someone else mentioned shackles. It's not so much a better shackle (both the OE Ford and the MaxTrac-style shackles are well-gusseted. The Ford shackle is actually shorter and probably deflects even less) as it is the more-dense urethane bushings in aftermarket shackles that clean up some of the bushing deflection resulting in suspension slop (highly technical terminology, there: "slop", or "variable geometry"). And a lighter weight tire mounted to a lighter-weight wheel (less unsprung weight) will also benefit handling and ride quality.

As for fuel loads, I like to keep my tank full. Part of my job description is driving everything from heavy trucks to forklifts. I am trained to examine tire condition, clean the glass and always fuel up at half-tank. Another benefit of a full tank is that there is less internal volume left over for condensation to collect (mostly a benefit in the steel-tank days), and to keep the now-in-tank fuel pumps always covered over by fuel which also serves as a pump coolant. I've had both BMW and Mercedes techs, friends of mine, tell me this.


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Old 04-21-2017, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dedalus5550
I learn something new everyday here. I totally thought there was a typo and the set was $1,700. But nope. It wasn't just the price of mountain bike shocks but the idea that someone can charge a lot more for truck components because the truck overall costs a whole lot more than a mountain bike.


Now I gotta ask this about 200# in the bed. I have a 36-gallon tank, but my intention all along was to fill it up to about 20 pounds unless I was on a road trip or towing. This was to save some weight. The extra gas might be 100 pounds, at 6 pounds per gallon. And this was all so I didn't use extra fuel hauling around another useless 100 pounds. Now you're thinking an extra 200 pounds in the bed on a daily basis? I'm guessing is the trade off of a better handling truck outweighs fuel economy?
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I generally keep my fuel tank full. Very seldom do I let it get below 1/2 tank before filling up. I have never notice a distinguishable difference in MPG with varying amounts of fuel in the tank. Any average pickup in going to ride better with added weight in the bed whether it be in the bed or towing a trailer that has a 150 to 200 lb. tongue weight.


You truck is designed to carry so much weight or tow a specified amount of weight without jeopardizing the drivability.


Go buy 2 or 3 bags of sand (cheap) and see if it doesn't ride noticeably better.
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Just realized both my Truck and my Santa Cruz have Fox shocks now. heh.

Yeah when you see that you can compress the stock shocks on these trucks with your hands you know they are crap.
Old 04-21-2017, 09:09 PM
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I have both the 200 lb canopy and a 36 gallon tank and I don't think it makes much difference in mileage. I am getting almost 15 mpg around town and it is less than 3 miles to work. If I go further I can see the mileage start to move up. It may make a difference but I also don't like stopping for gas so I just fill it up. I got 21.5 mpg on a 200 mile trip through the mountains on the freeway.




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