Topic Sponsor
2015 - 2020 Ford F150 General discussion on the 13th generation Ford F150 truck.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Preference? Electronic Parking Brake, or Mechanical / Manual

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-15-2018, 01:13 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
MotorsportsAustin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: San Mateo County, Kalifornia
Posts: 277
Received 53 Likes on 43 Posts

Default Preference? Electronic Parking Brake, or Mechanical / Manual

primer: I do not want a vehicle with electronic parking brake in place of a mechanical manual emergency brake, hence the thread question (which probably should be a poll).

Do you prefer electronic, or mechanical, and why?


I'll go first. Mechanical because it's a 100% separate brake system, and not hydraulic, nor battery powered. It's literally a drum brake on the inside of the rotor, and will work every time if it's in good shape. So it's an actual back up system, a true emergency (not just parking) brake. I also value simplicity where available.

Thanks!
Old 03-15-2018, 02:44 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
20004.6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: California
Posts: 695
Likes: 0
Received 169 Likes on 129 Posts

Default

Mechanical, because it is more reliable, when properly adjusted and working.
The following users liked this post:
MotorsportsAustin (03-15-2018)
Old 03-15-2018, 06:37 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
STeXy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 675
Received 101 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Seems the electronic brakes use the actual hydraulic brake system because the brake pedal goes down if you have your foot on it while engaging it. So that parking brake is superior in aspect to stopping the truck from rolling. Also like how I don't have to release it, just put it in gear and step on the accelerator.
The following 2 users liked this post by STeXy:
MotorsportsAustin (03-15-2018), rbird2 (02-07-2020)
Old 03-15-2018, 09:51 AM
  #4  
Blunt
 
BlackBoost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 4,034
Received 1,074 Likes on 722 Posts

Default

Mechanical. Because I can feel the brake being engaged instead of assuming that it is. Also as mentioned, good for emergencies so you can slowly put the e-brake on. I can only assume the electronic parking brakes won't engage if in drive and rolling. Even if it does engage, it uses the hydraulics, which probably aren't working which is why you're using the parking brake to stop in the first place.

Last edited by BlackBoost; 03-15-2018 at 10:02 AM.
The following users liked this post:
MotorsportsAustin (03-15-2018)
Old 03-15-2018, 10:22 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
moparado's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Midwest USA
Posts: 2,122
Received 387 Likes on 284 Posts
Default

There's enough electronic crap in these new vehicles. Just because they can doesn't mean they should.
They used to call them emergency brakes, now they call them parking brakes.

My preference would include both. Electronic strictly for everyday parking and old school mechanical for emergency brake failure and working on a vehicle.
A bunch of years ago i had a catastrophic brake failure in one of my cars and white knuckled it back home using the mechanical emergency brake.

When working on a lifted vehicle with the battery disconnected the last thing i want is an electronic brake.
The following users liked this post:
MotorsportsAustin (03-15-2018)
Old 03-15-2018, 01:22 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Alan in bc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Northern Vancouver Island
Posts: 283
Received 107 Likes on 69 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by STeXy
Seems the electronic brakes use the actual hydraulic brake system because the brake pedal goes down if you have your foot on it while engaging it. So that parking brake is superior in aspect to stopping the truck from rolling. Also like how I don't have to release it, just put it in gear and step on the accelerator.
That is because the electric actuators in the rear calipers push the piston and pads in to the rotor, and what you feel through the pedal is the small increase in the amount of brake fluid that is now behind the piston to take up the space. Sorry, not a very well-written technical description.
Overall, I like the electric parking brake. It is either "on" fully or "off". No being on the boat ramp and "hoping" that I full engaged the brake. Also good for taking off on a steep hill.
The following 2 users liked this post by Alan in bc:
johnday in BFE (03-15-2018), STeXy (03-15-2018)
Old 03-15-2018, 01:45 PM
  #7  
Village Sociopath


iTrader: (1)
 
johnday in BFE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Nowhereville Barton City Michigan
Posts: 28,528
Received 10,073 Likes on 6,507 Posts

Default

^^Exactly.
BTW, there's hasn't been an "emergency" brakes on a vehicle in any of our lifetimes. It's a "parking" brake, not that it can't be used in an emegency, at low speed, in case you were to bust a brakeline, yes that happened to me a few years ago. But in an emrgency? LOL, you're just gonna be SOL.
The following users liked this post:
STeXy (03-15-2018)
Old 03-15-2018, 02:13 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Finlay150's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 133
Received 52 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

I prefer the mechanical because it's easier/cheaper to fix. My 18 is electronic. Not a big deal.
Old 03-15-2018, 02:48 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Napalm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Memphis TN
Posts: 2,335
Received 430 Likes on 329 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by MotorsportsAustin
primer: I do not want a vehicle with electronic parking brake in place of a mechanical manual emergency brake, hence the thread question (which probably should be a poll).

Do you prefer electronic, or mechanical, and why?


I'll go first. Mechanical because it's a 100% separate brake system, and not hydraulic, nor battery powered. It's literally a drum brake on the inside of the rotor, and will work every time if it's in good shape. So it's an actual back up system, a true emergency (not just parking) brake. I also value simplicity where available.

Thanks!
before I vote a query

Are you referring to the drum in rotor parking brake on the previous edition F150? Was it actually meant to be a emergency brake? I believe it was a parking brake only - and that if applied at speed it would release.

Similar to what is found on other cars. It is not sized nor intended to be a backup to the real brakes on the vehicle. I never owned a previous gen F150 so I don't have a owners manual reference on hand.
The following users liked this post:
STeXy (03-15-2018)
Old 03-15-2018, 03:17 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Napalm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Memphis TN
Posts: 2,335
Received 430 Likes on 329 Posts

Default

now my vote - electrical version 3 as found on few sports cars. This is coming from currently owning 2 cars with mechanical pull cable parking brakes. Neither is listed or intended to be used as an emergency brake.

Where version 3 comes from. On the market today are 3 versions of electronic parking brake. the F150 uses V2. V1 was a motor and gear set that pulled a cable on a dedicated ratchet caliper on the brake rotor.

V2 also pulls a cable but this uses a different caliper design such that it is the standard brake caliper that applies the pressure. As someone above pointed out this is why your pedal falls a tick when you apply the parking brake on your F150 it is pulling down fluid in the piston and also locking the caliper in place. This new motor is also self adjusting.

V3 however is the most expensive and the version I would prefer as it has a second back up. This uses a new brake caliper with a motor and screw drive on the back that drives home the pison upon application - and since it would be on either 2 or even all 4 wheels - it has more redundancy. I prefer this better but it makes for a rather expensive caliper.

I like what's on the F150 it suits the needs - but I'd prefer the more expensive version. I however don't mind the mechanical system either but I'm glad not to have it on the new truck. When titled a parking brake in the manual, it is not intended to be a emergency brake. 2 different needs.


Quick Reply: Preference? Electronic Parking Brake, or Mechanical / Manual



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:14 AM.