Performance in Snow
12-28-2017, 10:58 AM
#191
I'm not arguing with your experience with the 20" GYWA w/K tires, I'm just sayin that my experience was completely different. Bed cover (90lbs) and truck stuff (another 30lbs), so 120lbs in the bed, total. Put it in 4A and then 4H, and never had a problem driving in 18" or so of snow. I got stuck momentarily at the bottom of a slight hill where there was a snow bank 4' tall, which I couldn't see when I went down the one-way street. Rocked back and forth a few times, got some running room, and whee! back up the hill I went.
That's as close to stuck as I've gotten in this truck.
-John
That's as close to stuck as I've gotten in this truck.
-John
She looked at me, giggled, and said "really". I laughed, put it in 4 and since my front tires were on dry concrete of course it took off. Embarrassing for a moment.
On the flip side, don't be afraid to use 4x4. A very small patch of snow can and will wreck your *** in the right situation. Trucks *** ends are light.
12-28-2017, 11:02 AM
#192
Lol. I did the same. Got stuck in a two foot long patch at the bottom of a hill, of course taking a girl back to her house.
She looked at me, giggled, and said "really". I laughed, put it in 4 and since my front tires were on dry concrete of course it took off. Embarrassing for a moment.
On the flip side, don't be afraid to use 4x4. A very small patch of snow can and will wreck your *** in the right situation. Trucks *** ends are light.
She looked at me, giggled, and said "really". I laughed, put it in 4 and since my front tires were on dry concrete of course it took off. Embarrassing for a moment.
On the flip side, don't be afraid to use 4x4. A very small patch of snow can and will wreck your *** in the right situation. Trucks *** ends are light.
In my situation, I had been driving along on mostly-plowed roads, but found some untouched stuff. There were some kids walking along at the top of the road, and they shouted out, "Haha, you're gonna get STUCK!"
You should've seen the looks on their faces when I was at the bottom, and again when I was reversing up the hill
Priceless!-John
12-28-2017, 11:06 AM
#193
Because I really want to save the 20" PVD wheels, I decided on bying winter alloys and dedicated ice tires.
My commute is mostly flat highway, high winds, fluctuating temps. So lots of dry roads, then black ice....
I didn't try the truck in deep light snow yet.
Last edited by Delavan; 12-28-2017 at 11:28 AM.
12-28-2017, 06:24 PM
#194
Senior Member
Went into town ahead of the upcoming storm, roads were my favorite winter roads: 1-3" of semi packed snow, so grip was great with duratracs, as usual. Just leave it in 4A and I have to try to lose traction. Same cannot be said for my commander despite having front and rear elsd axles. I blame the garbage hankook atms that I put on it, they were dirt cheap and it shows. Anyone that says they are great on their 20" equipped trucks are either in denial or havent had anything better.
12-28-2017, 07:49 PM
#195
Mine came with the stock Hankook 20s. First snow they were manageable but not very confidence inspiring. I changed to Hankook i-Pike winter tires and they made a huge difference. I have to try to lose traction in 2wd and when I put it in 4wd it feels glued to the road no matter how much snow is on it.
12-28-2017, 07:57 PM
#196
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Mine came with the stock Hankook 20s. First snow they were manageable but not very confidence inspiring. I changed to Hankook i-Pike winter tires and they made a huge difference. I have to try to lose traction in 2wd and when I put it in 4wd it feels glued to the road no matter how much snow is on it.
I did throw 300# of sandbags in, and it helped. Still marginal IMO.
12-28-2017, 08:55 PM
#197
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Mine came with the stock Hankook 20s. First snow they were manageable but not very confidence inspiring. I changed to Hankook i-Pike winter tires and they made a huge difference. I have to try to lose traction in 2wd and when I put it in 4wd it feels glued to the road no matter how much snow is on it.
12-28-2017, 09:03 PM
#198
12-29-2017, 05:21 PM
#199
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Wife's previous van had Nokians and she would drive over big mounts of snow just for the fun of it. It was unstoppable!!
She sold the van and gave the tires to nephew who had an "omnipotent" smile on his face for passing by some 4x4's with $*itty tires...
The new van has good winter tires, but not even close to Nokian's performance.
Anyway, stop free publicizing that brand and let me be another one check marking that the OEM Hankook Dynapros are $*itty snow tires - surprisingly! But NOT surprisingly wayyyyy better than the Pirellis I had before (will miss those for summer though) ...
She sold the van and gave the tires to nephew who had an "omnipotent" smile on his face for passing by some 4x4's with $*itty tires...
The new van has good winter tires, but not even close to Nokian's performance.
Anyway, stop free publicizing that brand and let me be another one check marking that the OEM Hankook Dynapros are $*itty snow tires - surprisingly! But NOT surprisingly wayyyyy better than the Pirellis I had before (will miss those for summer though) ...
12-29-2017, 05:24 PM
#200
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Hope this helps somebody.
I have a 2018 Lariat Screw 3.5EB short bed. This is my first pickup truck. I've put snow tires on my cars since I was in college. I've also driven 4wd or AWD cars since college. My dad thinks I'm nuts.
I drove a bit on the 20" Hankooks in the snow. They were ok. Nothing special. Not great on ice. Not awful. Lots of traction control kick in.
I put 17" General Grabber Arctic (P-metric XL) in 265/70/17 on XLT rims. I have a tri fold tonneau and a bedrug and that's it for weight in the bed.
I'm outside Boston, I drove ~100 miles in the ice storm before Xmas. I never had to turn on 4wd. On Ice, those grabbers did very well. Some of the parking lots were wind polished ice. The truck just went. My house is near a reservoir, so they don't salt my road. I saw a few car skid marks where folks went off the road and the truck (still in 2wd) did just fine.
Yesterday I took my kids sledding and parked in an unplowed (~6 inches) of powder on top of ice, in the parking lot. I had to use 4wd H. In powder the treads on the grabbers clogged up pretty quickly. I think there are better options for powder driving, but they still were ok. The parking lot is actually just a field. I think some of the issue was the truck was breaking the ice layer and sinking in a bit, maybe?
I did look for the LT version of these tires, but I couldn't find any in stock for a reasonable price. I think they're tread depth is 16/32nds vs the 12/32nds I have. Hopefully they last ok on such a heavy vehicle. Time will tell. I had LT tires on my 4runner, but they rode rough, weighed a lot and were loud (but that probably has more to do with tread pattern). My wife hated them. P-metric is fine for now.
Hope the helps!
T
I have a 2018 Lariat Screw 3.5EB short bed. This is my first pickup truck. I've put snow tires on my cars since I was in college. I've also driven 4wd or AWD cars since college. My dad thinks I'm nuts.
I drove a bit on the 20" Hankooks in the snow. They were ok. Nothing special. Not great on ice. Not awful. Lots of traction control kick in.
I put 17" General Grabber Arctic (P-metric XL) in 265/70/17 on XLT rims. I have a tri fold tonneau and a bedrug and that's it for weight in the bed.
I'm outside Boston, I drove ~100 miles in the ice storm before Xmas. I never had to turn on 4wd. On Ice, those grabbers did very well. Some of the parking lots were wind polished ice. The truck just went. My house is near a reservoir, so they don't salt my road. I saw a few car skid marks where folks went off the road and the truck (still in 2wd) did just fine.
Yesterday I took my kids sledding and parked in an unplowed (~6 inches) of powder on top of ice, in the parking lot. I had to use 4wd H. In powder the treads on the grabbers clogged up pretty quickly. I think there are better options for powder driving, but they still were ok. The parking lot is actually just a field. I think some of the issue was the truck was breaking the ice layer and sinking in a bit, maybe?
I did look for the LT version of these tires, but I couldn't find any in stock for a reasonable price. I think they're tread depth is 16/32nds vs the 12/32nds I have. Hopefully they last ok on such a heavy vehicle. Time will tell. I had LT tires on my 4runner, but they rode rough, weighed a lot and were loud (but that probably has more to do with tread pattern). My wife hated them. P-metric is fine for now.
Hope the helps!
T