dedalus5550

Yup. Can't compare two very dissimilar vehicles. And a few years ago when the Accord went through a re-design (uglier, to me) my local volume dealer, known for dropping it's pants, had $1,000 and $2,000 mark-ups. Only while it was new for a few weeks or months, but still.

And as for the Raptor, here we have some dealers with $15k mark-ups. My brother-in-law is friends with the general manager at one of these. He told me that about once a week a customer will demand to hear it from him--not the salesman--that they won't bend on that mark-up. Even if you get that special pricing, they just add the $15k on top of it.

Ricktwuhk

You may want to review the many buying threads during the 7 months before you buy. Of note:

- Buying the new model year as it just starts up will yield very small rebates.

- The prior model year will have much larger rebates, but finding exactly what you want may be difficult.

- XLTs have the highest rebates. Models about XLT has much lower rebates by thousands of dollars.

- You may want to investigate the Ford X-Plan, and join an organization that offers it, prior to the 60 day period that you have to wait to qualify to use the plan. Fixed price just above invoice, minus rebates, no negotiating. Takes all the stress out of the experience.

RL1990

Depends on how well the new model is received. Dealers are going to judge customer response to the new model and if people come to look at the 2018s but purchase 2017s they're not going to be as many discounts. Ford will also take note and not offer as many rebates on the 2017s if 2018s are not rolling off the lot. New facelift might not be popular then there is the all new powertrains across the board. I would get a 2017.

All Hat No Cattle

Good advice. You can get X-Plan pricing right after the Order Book comes out.

Right now, I think the cheapest organization to join is the EAA, $40.
You get a PIN, and can look up X-Plan pricing on the Ford Build site.

https://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/eaa-membe...nition-program

FX4life

I'm in hopes they hit the ground before October 20 (doubtful after the 17 roll out) so I can still use the A-plan I have, otherwise it will be x-plan or see if big volume dealers just want a sale at month end.

I hope they push some more media so we can see the 18 wearing other colors already.

uat75035

Very interesting that you mentioned about the costco auto program, I was thinking about that this morning. Costco gives decent deal?

uat75035

Thank you for bringing that up, I have never heard of x plan. I will definitely do some research on that.

HwyCycle

Join the Mustang Club of America... active members receive a code which allows the purchase at XPlan pricing.. with out negotiating.. (supposedly)

I had the code, but I got my truck at invoice in :30 seconds with out it..

zx12-iowa

Im looking at a pilot 4 the wife and they are at 4k off msrp.

On the 18 f150 rebates will be low at first and then grow throughout 18.

All Hat No Cattle

True. On my 2016, I was able to go with a deal giving me less than invoice, even with the $499 Doc Fee. So I didn't use my X-Plan.

But, on the 2017 Edge I have on order, X-Plan is about $101 over invoice, but the Doc Fee is limited to $100. So, $101 over invoice, but $399 saved on the Doc Fee. Which is the better deal, LOL? Best I could do on a Titanium, at 4 dealers, Special Order.

So always do the TOTAL math.

Here is what an X-Plan invoice looks like on an Edge.