(Partial) costs of the F150 engines & the cost of a few mpg
#41
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This brings up something I've been thinking about and that is resale value. I ran my F150 which is a 2018 Lariat with 20,000 miles on Kelly Blue Book.
2.7 Engine is $31,879-$34,851
5.0 Engine is $31,723-$34,704
3.5 Engine is $32,738-$35,719
Then I went to Ford and built a 2019 with the engine options
2.7 Engine is $48,330
5.0 Engine is $49,330
3.5 Engine is $49,930
Diesel Engine is $52,330
This is the Lariat 500A with 4wd. I don't think gas money is an issue but it does seem the 3.5 is the better option if you are looking at trade in value.
2.7 Engine is $31,879-$34,851
5.0 Engine is $31,723-$34,704
3.5 Engine is $32,738-$35,719
Then I went to Ford and built a 2019 with the engine options
2.7 Engine is $48,330
5.0 Engine is $49,330
3.5 Engine is $49,930
Diesel Engine is $52,330
This is the Lariat 500A with 4wd. I don't think gas money is an issue but it does seem the 3.5 is the better option if you are looking at trade in value.
#42
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I suppose depreciation is guesstimate-able, given that the 10-year average depreciation is known and the initial costs are known. In leu of doing that, I'll run my numbers out to 20 years, 300,000 miles and update my original post. The differences in resale value at that point should be very small.
I'll have to have a friendly counter argument about this .
Would you raise this as an objection?
If you wouldn't, then you're casting doubt against the ability of people to keep a budget in one case but not the other. In many cases, your prejudgement won't be accurate. I know people who internally count saving for retirement as the single most important cost to save for. It's buying your ability to live when you cannot support yourself, after all.
Would you raise this as an objection?
If you wouldn't, then you're casting doubt against the ability of people to keep a budget in one case but not the other. In many cases, your prejudgement won't be accurate. I know people who internally count saving for retirement as the single most important cost to save for. It's buying your ability to live when you cannot support yourself, after all.
My point here - most likely poorly worded - is that outside of 3 years it's really hard to gage what fuel prices or even vehicle prices will do. Back in 07 - had you told me in under a year I would pay 5 per gallon for gas I would have laughed in your face. But even here in the SE US I was paying 5 per gallon for a while - it was insane. 2 years before that I was paying 2 or less. That's my point you have to set a price - for me when I do my sheets on a car I use the 5 year average in my area - thanks gas buddy. And it's an average I'm inputting into - so it's no random per say. It's just as possible the bottom might fall out - and gas price could plummet. It happened once before.
I also use Acar - or Fuely app to track what my fleet does on MPG's and prices I pay etc. SO I know my numbers - in my area - where I go. Not everyone does this.
Point is - for some resale value doesn't play on the sheet. I don't give one IOTA what the resale value is because in 10 years time it doesn't much matter but I will look at trade in - if I'm doing a vehicle swap. It depends on what I'm buying and why. In the case of the F150 my sheet didn't have any resale thought on it - and it didn't have any trade in number on it. New purchase for new need that wasn't going to go away soon. vs - new daily for me, might trade in the current one, will buy something, probably finance it because rates, and soe it's gas dollars and MX dollars of current vs fuel and finance dollars on new. No it doesn't balance out yet but it might if MX dollars or gas dollars keep going up
#44
The massive amount of money you lose in depreciation from keeping any new vehicle for only a few years far outweighs any differences in resale value of the engines. Same goes for mpg. Buy the engine you want and you will keep the truck longer.
#46
Running data is useless if it doesn't account for the advantages as well as negatives.
E.G. The 5.0 is a flex fuel motor while the others aren't. If you were to run the 5.0 with flex fuel price and MPG compared to premium for the EB motors it would show potential that the others don't have. Same issue with all the hp comparisons.
Regardless: The only thing this data can potentially prove is that more powerful and more desirable engines cost more money to operate, which is a big "no ****".
E.G. The 5.0 is a flex fuel motor while the others aren't. If you were to run the 5.0 with flex fuel price and MPG compared to premium for the EB motors it would show potential that the others don't have. Same issue with all the hp comparisons.
Regardless: The only thing this data can potentially prove is that more powerful and more desirable engines cost more money to operate, which is a big "no ****".
#47
Hey when did they change from Thanks to Likes?
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#48
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^ I knew you'de like that post.
#49
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Ill take my 5.0 over either of the v6's because of the wonderful sounds it makes
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#50
However, getting a bit older and out of that phase, I love the turbo spool of my 3.5L. Its subtle yet profound.