paint flaws on 3 doors and fender, what would you ask for?
#31
As to repaints, I used to rebuild insurance totals and resell them, probably done over 30 cars. Repaints are never the same especially as time goes by. It may look ok in the beginning buts it's never as good as the factory paint. A few flaws are still better than having my truck unusable for a week while they get to it. A worse of all potential matching issues and paint that just isn't the same.
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#32
Wow, there's some pretty hostile people on this forum. My '17 Ingot Silver Lariat has paint flaws that irritate me, but I'm not going to do anything about it. No, I didn't see them when I picked it up, and they are only visible in certain lighting. If I tried to post a picture I doubt it would show the problem. I get the OP's issue; if you repaint you have some diminished value and if you don't you get irritated every time you look at it. Mine is subtle enough that I choose to ignore it and I have no idea what Ford could do to make me happy if I did complain about it.
#34
Wow, there's some pretty hostile people on this forum. My '17 Ingot Silver Lariat has paint flaws that irritate me, but I'm not going to do anything about it. No, I didn't see them when I picked it up, and they are only visible in certain lighting. If I tried to post a picture I doubt it would show the problem. I get the OP's issue; if you repaint you have some diminished value and if you don't you get irritated every time you look at it. Mine is subtle enough that I choose to ignore it and I have no idea what Ford could do to make me happy if I did complain about it.
#35
Senior Member
Wow, there's some pretty hostile people on this forum. My '17 Ingot Silver Lariat has paint flaws that irritate me, but I'm not going to do anything about it. No, I didn't see them when I picked it up, and they are only visible in certain lighting. If I tried to post a picture I doubt it would show the problem. I get the OP's issue; if you repaint you have some diminished value and if you don't you get irritated every time you look at it. Mine is subtle enough that I choose to ignore it and I have no idea what Ford could do to make me happy if I did complain about it.
#36
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Wow, there's some pretty hostile people on this forum. My '17 Ingot Silver Lariat has paint flaws that irritate me, but I'm not going to do anything about it. No, I didn't see them when I picked it up, and they are only visible in certain lighting. If I tried to post a picture I doubt it would show the problem. I get the OP's issue; if you repaint you have some diminished value and if you don't you get irritated every time you look at it. Mine is subtle enough that I choose to ignore it and I have no idea what Ford could do to make me happy if I did complain about it.
#37
Senior Member
I don’t really see any hostility. The op stated his truck has paint flaws that he doesn’t want repaired. If he doesn’t want them repaired the issue can’t be that important. The added plug for another form of compensation doesn’t sit right (clearly I’m not alone in that). I know how I feel about my truck, or any other new vehicle I’ve had. If there’s a problem I get it fixed. This is the 1st I’ve ever heard “don’t fix it, but what else ya got?”. Seems like the compensation is more important than the problem in this case.
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#38
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Not trying to trash you. But, if the 30 builders you painted weren't as nice or better than the factory paint, you more than likely used inferior products, or lack the skill.
If quality is your concern, go to a shop with a certified PPG painter. I can't speak for other paint companies because I'm not certified with them, as i am with PPG. PPG is an oem warranty approved refinish company, and your vehicle painted by a certified shop means you will retain the factory warranty beyond its expiration.
I painted Ford warranty for 6 years. If you were approved for the paint warranty, they are to do that and nothing else. There is a record of your complaint with Ford corporate, that's all you will get from the top. Unless you have a completely amazing dealer that wants to help you otherwise, that would be up to them.
If you never intended to have the defects corrected, why file for the warranty? Puts your dealer in an awkward situation trying to make you happy, while trying to explain to Ford why the warranty wasnt carried out.
Once approved that ties the dealers hands to only fixing that problem. If your intention was to leave the defects, and stroke the dealer for some freebies, you should have said that before the warranty was filed. Unless you did and i missed it somewhere. The only way the dealer will Get paid from Ford in this situation now, is when Ford has confirmation the repairs We're carried out. At this point the dealer will have to foot the bill for any freebies for you. Then good luck in the future if you ever have another warranty issue with that dealer. I know the 3 Ford dealers i worked for would tell you to go somewhere else next time.
If quality is your concern, go to a shop with a certified PPG painter. I can't speak for other paint companies because I'm not certified with them, as i am with PPG. PPG is an oem warranty approved refinish company, and your vehicle painted by a certified shop means you will retain the factory warranty beyond its expiration.
I painted Ford warranty for 6 years. If you were approved for the paint warranty, they are to do that and nothing else. There is a record of your complaint with Ford corporate, that's all you will get from the top. Unless you have a completely amazing dealer that wants to help you otherwise, that would be up to them.
If you never intended to have the defects corrected, why file for the warranty? Puts your dealer in an awkward situation trying to make you happy, while trying to explain to Ford why the warranty wasnt carried out.
Once approved that ties the dealers hands to only fixing that problem. If your intention was to leave the defects, and stroke the dealer for some freebies, you should have said that before the warranty was filed. Unless you did and i missed it somewhere. The only way the dealer will Get paid from Ford in this situation now, is when Ford has confirmation the repairs We're carried out. At this point the dealer will have to foot the bill for any freebies for you. Then good luck in the future if you ever have another warranty issue with that dealer. I know the 3 Ford dealers i worked for would tell you to go somewhere else next time.
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#39
NIGHTMARE
I’d ask for a 6 inch lift installed with some 20x10 chrome wheels and 35” MT tires and while there at it a tuner with performance tunes and a Tonneau cover.
That should cover the pain and anguish I have to endure driving a truck with less then 100% perfect pain.
Shame on them
That should cover the pain and anguish I have to endure driving a truck with less then 100% perfect pain.
Shame on them
#40
Not trying to trash you. But, if the 30 builders you painted weren't as nice or better than the factory paint, you more than likely used inferior products, or lack the skill.
If quality is your concern, go to a shop with a certified PPG painter. I can't speak for other paint companies because I'm not certified with them, as i am with PPG. PPG is an oem warranty approved refinish company, and your vehicle painted by a certified shop means you will retain the factory warranty beyond its expiration.
I painted Ford warranty for 6 years. If you were approved for the paint warranty, they are to do that and nothing else. There is a record of your complaint with Ford corporate, that's all you will get from the top. Unless you have a completely amazing dealer that wants to help you otherwise, that would be up to them.
If you never intended to have the defects corrected, why file for the warranty? Puts your dealer in an awkward situation trying to make you happy, while trying to explain to Ford why the warranty wasnt carried out.
Once approved that ties the dealers hands to only fixing that problem. If your intention was to leave the defects, and stroke the dealer for some freebies, you should have said that before the warranty was filed. Unless you did and i missed it somewhere. The only way the dealer will Get paid from Ford in this situation now, is when Ford has confirmation the repairs We're carried out. At this point the dealer will have to foot the bill for any freebies for you. Then good luck in the future if you ever have another warranty issue with that dealer. I know the 3 Ford dealers i worked for would tell you to go somewhere else next time.
If quality is your concern, go to a shop with a certified PPG painter. I can't speak for other paint companies because I'm not certified with them, as i am with PPG. PPG is an oem warranty approved refinish company, and your vehicle painted by a certified shop means you will retain the factory warranty beyond its expiration.
I painted Ford warranty for 6 years. If you were approved for the paint warranty, they are to do that and nothing else. There is a record of your complaint with Ford corporate, that's all you will get from the top. Unless you have a completely amazing dealer that wants to help you otherwise, that would be up to them.
If you never intended to have the defects corrected, why file for the warranty? Puts your dealer in an awkward situation trying to make you happy, while trying to explain to Ford why the warranty wasnt carried out.
Once approved that ties the dealers hands to only fixing that problem. If your intention was to leave the defects, and stroke the dealer for some freebies, you should have said that before the warranty was filed. Unless you did and i missed it somewhere. The only way the dealer will Get paid from Ford in this situation now, is when Ford has confirmation the repairs We're carried out. At this point the dealer will have to foot the bill for any freebies for you. Then good luck in the future if you ever have another warranty issue with that dealer. I know the 3 Ford dealers i worked for would tell you to go somewhere else next time.
what I am asking for might not cost ford 1 penny.
what I am saying is I have dealt with body shops for years, I used several different shops when I bought and sold my insurance totals. I have used a couple different ones since I have left that side business. While I am happy that many here have had successful repaints I personally haven't seen it go the life of the vehicle without you eventually knowing it.
I have a white ford e350 van I bought from the state surplus I use for business. I bought it several years ago and the paint looked fine. I had access to all the maintenance records when I bought it, I knew it has a fender replaced and had some paint work done when I bought it, but being white you couldn't tell. at least I didn't care. The van is an '04 BTW. fast forward several years and after being outside you can clearly see the paint has oxidized more in the repainted areas. you could not have known that or seen that at time of purchase.
wife had a silver sienna door, fenders and bumper cover repainted, BTW those saying repaints on bumper covers come out as good as factory don't know shat from shinola. repaints on both an '07 mustang I had and the sienna where more prone to flaking off on the bumper covers the paint also didn't match perfect.
I suppose the shop doing the work at the dealership may be some kinda paint gods, who should be working for boyd coddington, painting custom hot rods or working at counts customs..........maybe, but what if they aren't. I feel they probably aren't and from my experience the repaint will never ever be the same.
I will post picks and revive this thread when I clean the truck again. its basically flaws in the clear coat.