Oil Sludge at 28K on my 3week old CPO 2015 Platinum...?!
04-29-2017, 12:54 PM
#91
Do what you want but IMO involving your local dealer in this ordeal is a mistake! There is nothing worse than bringing in a third party to a 2 party crisis, plus you will not be a priority to the local dealer. I would get your truck back to the dealer that sold it to you and get them to make it right and they WILL make it a priority.
04-29-2017, 02:43 PM
#92
I almost feel better including a trusted ford dealer in my area where I know someone and have confidence they will not try and cover the tracks of the negligent dealer/s who didn't do their job. My concern with allowing the truck to go back to the selling dealer other then the HUGE inconvenience and time I would have to take from work and my family is that they are going to try and cover their tracks. Just my thoughts.
Imagine they did the full inspection, flushed the oil and changed all the filters. You'd probably never know it like the hundreds of other used vehicle buyers every day.
Realistic expectations probably don't include a new remanufactured engine, at least until this one pukes....
Good luck.
04-29-2017, 03:28 PM
#93
Seems so unlikely you'd ever get the leverage from your local trusted dealer to clean up someone else's mess especially with demands like a new engine.
Imagine they did the full inspection, flushed the oil and changed all the filters. You'd probably never know it like the hundreds of other used vehicle buyers every day.
Realistic expectations probably don't include a new remanufactured engine, at least until this one pukes....
Good luck.
Imagine they did the full inspection, flushed the oil and changed all the filters. You'd probably never know it like the hundreds of other used vehicle buyers every day.
Realistic expectations probably don't include a new remanufactured engine, at least until this one pukes....
Good luck.
However, I KNOW this is not going to be resolved quickly. I'm in for a few weeks of phone calls and arguments. I'm ready for that. I'm not asking the local dealer to do anything to fix this issue I simply want a documented analysis of what is going on. That's it. Don't fix it just tell me what's going on.
I'm more hesitant to put this vehicle back in the hands of the people that told me it was "serviced top to bottom" and trust them to truely analize the issues especially if they are trying to cover up the fact that the simply didn't do anything to service this vehicle.
04-29-2017, 07:33 PM
#94
Oh. So the 172 point inspection in post #55 was not yours now that I re-read that. I would agree. You need that certification of your truck from that dealer. Once you have that then things should start to roll. Don't let them get their hands on your truck until they provide the certificate. My guess is that FoMoCo has a very deliberate and documented process for pre-certifying any car before it leaves the lot and the local dealer cut corners. Don't think it gets any simpler. Take the certification and your pictures straight to FoMoCo and put the dealer in the middle to defend their process for following what has been outlined by mother Ford.
04-29-2017, 08:59 PM
#95
Senior Member
You just seem to not want to accept that condensation happens and IF that's what's happened here it's just not a big deal. It collects up high and does no harm. In vehicles with very short run cycles it's very common.
And in all honesty that air filter isn't that bad. It could use a change but it's not in that bad of shape. A really bad one will be completely black....that one still has plenty of white showing.
You can capitalize and "yell" all you want...it doesn't change the fact that this "could" be a perfectly normal condition mixed in with a **** poor CPO inspection.
And in all honesty that air filter isn't that bad. It could use a change but it's not in that bad of shape. A really bad one will be completely black....that one still has plenty of white showing.
You can capitalize and "yell" all you want...it doesn't change the fact that this "could" be a perfectly normal condition mixed in with a **** poor CPO inspection.
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04-30-2017, 09:23 AM
#99
Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I'm clueless. It means I disagree with you.
After 30+ years in the automotive aftermarket and drag racing world I've earned the right to my opinion. This site is full of people that can't do anything except read their owners manual and flip out about minor issues...I guess you fall into that catagory as well. God forbid someone doesn't fall in line around here and automatically assume the OP needs a new engine. Buncha damn sheep....
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04-30-2017, 10:13 AM
#100
Nobody here has claimed why it is that the OPs engine is full of sludge. Regardless of the cause, you can't pump toothpaste consistency sludge to critical parts of the engine that need lubrication, i.e. mains, rod bearings, valve train, etc. and expect to have a high mileage engine 10 years down the road. I don't feel it necessary to post my resume here to make my point as this is just common sense. The engine (and the rest of the truck for that matter) has been neglected and abused. The OP isn't going to get his 10 year truck that he payed for and trusted was fit with a minimum of a long block replacement. Plane and simple, he got screwed by a dealer that was willing to gambled their reputation to save a dime. I think if the shoe were on the other foot, you wouldn't just drain, flush, and refill and be on your merry way. Seriously?
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