Need more stopping powah
02-20-2018, 04:13 PM
#41
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According to Car & Driver a 2017 F150 takes 180’ to stop from 70mph. Not the greatest, but not terrible either. Just for reference the 330i from 70mph required 168’.
I doubt there is any brake brake system out there that can make our trucks stop quicker as impending lock-up is not an issue. Less pedal effort and/or pedal fade? Maybe.
I feel our F150’s ride so well and have so much power that we forget that they are trucks!!
I doubt there is any brake brake system out there that can make our trucks stop quicker as impending lock-up is not an issue. Less pedal effort and/or pedal fade? Maybe.
I feel our F150’s ride so well and have so much power that we forget that they are trucks!!
02-20-2018, 06:13 PM
#42
You can reach impending lockup (ABS event) in your truck during dry tarmac conditions?
With tires in good condition that's not within reach of typical OEM truck brakes.
It's NOT a bad thing of course, if you're driving a truck like it's a truck.
With tires in good condition that's not within reach of typical OEM truck brakes.
It's NOT a bad thing of course, if you're driving a truck like it's a truck.
02-20-2018, 10:14 PM
#43
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02-20-2018, 10:24 PM
#44
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Let me get this straight. People are advocating better tires to stop sooner. Yet the OP has never said at any point that the truck isn't stopping quick enough when he puts the pedal to the floor. That would be when a tire matters. The OP is simply applying the brake pedal too late for a truck, or he isn't pushing the pedal down enough quick enough.
There is no mechanical issue here unless the OP is putting the pedal down to the floor and getting ABS to kick in. He simply needs to learn how to stop a big heavy brick, which is different than a BMW.
There is no mechanical issue here unless the OP is putting the pedal down to the floor and getting ABS to kick in. He simply needs to learn how to stop a big heavy brick, which is different than a BMW.
So yes I'm getting better at not overshooting my intended stopping point. Still think I might like to tweak things a bit, starting with the braided lines. Acknowledge that they're not going to stop the truck 25 feet sooner. But anything that makes the pedal feel more responsive and consistent would make me happy.
02-20-2018, 10:31 PM
#45
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This is a bizarre thread.
OP has two choices:
1) Modify his driving style or
2) Spend money on a myriad of upgrades
I ASSUME (dangerous, I know) that he does NOT want to modify his driving style since he went to the trouble to post here.
With enough money - you can absolutely make the F150 stop as well as his BMW did. It's just going to be expensive.
OP has two choices:
1) Modify his driving style or
2) Spend money on a myriad of upgrades
I ASSUME (dangerous, I know) that he does NOT want to modify his driving style since he went to the trouble to post here.
With enough money - you can absolutely make the F150 stop as well as his BMW did. It's just going to be expensive.
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02-20-2018, 10:32 PM
#46
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I brought mine to the dealer to be checked because mine felt odd too. The pedal travels far the first time it's pressed. Then gets firmer if released and pressed again. Mechanic said all F-150's were like this and showed it to me on another one. Guess he's right. Seems like brakes should have a consistent feel each time.
02-20-2018, 10:37 PM
#47
There is nothing wrong with attempting to improve the performance of your truck.
Whether it be increased acceleration OR increased deceleration.
It's interesting that everyone believes one is a valid pursuit, but only a few feel the other is.
If it were a sports car, you'd find it far less controversial for the owner to upgrade the stopping power. There's a huge aftermarket for it too. But serious performance braking is rare air in the truck world, thus highly overpriced. But if you pony up, the results are the same. Legitimate increased stopping power.
But it actually does make sense. Trucks are trucks for 99% of the drivers. It's not an autocross genre.
Whether it be increased acceleration OR increased deceleration.
It's interesting that everyone believes one is a valid pursuit, but only a few feel the other is.
If it were a sports car, you'd find it far less controversial for the owner to upgrade the stopping power. There's a huge aftermarket for it too. But serious performance braking is rare air in the truck world, thus highly overpriced. But if you pony up, the results are the same. Legitimate increased stopping power.
But it actually does make sense. Trucks are trucks for 99% of the drivers. It's not an autocross genre.
02-20-2018, 10:59 PM
#48
2018 Lariat 4x4
An engineer colleague made a point of clarification in a brief I attended a few months back:
The function of the brakes is to slow the vehicle.
The purpose of the brakes is to allow the vehicle to go fast.
The function of the brakes is to slow the vehicle.
The purpose of the brakes is to allow the vehicle to go fast.
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02-20-2018, 11:17 PM
#49
From Tifosi Performance:
Brakes from a McLaren 720S
It weighs 3000lbs and has 720HP
I haven't had the pleasure, but I bet it has brakes that allow it to be driven fast!
An Aluminum F150 is still 2000lbs heavier and a higher center of gravity.
It's just physics, but you'd need MORE clamping force\surface area than those McLaren binders.
They're massive. But they are real. More stopping powah!
By the way, since I snagged their pics, I should point out they LOVE F150 ecoboost trucks. They tow their racecars with them. They drive our trucks fast.
Brakes from a McLaren 720S
It weighs 3000lbs and has 720HP
I haven't had the pleasure, but I bet it has brakes that allow it to be driven fast!
An Aluminum F150 is still 2000lbs heavier and a higher center of gravity.
It's just physics, but you'd need MORE clamping force\surface area than those McLaren binders.
They're massive. But they are real. More stopping powah!
By the way, since I snagged their pics, I should point out they LOVE F150 ecoboost trucks. They tow their racecars with them. They drive our trucks fast.
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BlueSpark (02-21-2018)
02-21-2018, 04:08 AM
#50
From Tifosi Performance:
Brakes from a McLaren 720S
It weighs 3000lbs and has 720HP
I haven't had the pleasure, but I bet it has brakes that allow it to be driven fast!
An Aluminum F150 is still 2000lbs heavier and a higher center of gravity.
It's just physics, but you'd need MORE clamping force\surface area than those McLaren binders.
They're massive. But they are real. More stopping powah!
By the way, since I snagged their pics, I should point out they LOVE F150 ecoboost trucks. They tow their racecars with them. They drive our trucks fast.
Brakes from a McLaren 720S
It weighs 3000lbs and has 720HP
I haven't had the pleasure, but I bet it has brakes that allow it to be driven fast!
An Aluminum F150 is still 2000lbs heavier and a higher center of gravity.
It's just physics, but you'd need MORE clamping force\surface area than those McLaren binders.
They're massive. But they are real. More stopping powah!
By the way, since I snagged their pics, I should point out they LOVE F150 ecoboost trucks. They tow their racecars with them. They drive our trucks fast.
I wear a size 15 shoe...for reference.
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