Leather Care Product
11-16-2016, 03:47 PM
#31
Will do it seems cheaper and you can get it on amazon as well, the zaino site always charges shipping also and for a couple of bottles of cleaner it doesnt seem worth it but I will give it a shot. That poor boys stuff seems good also, not the first time ive seen it.
Best policy on leather in most modern cars is just keep it clean. When you wash your car..."wash" your leather and it should look new for years.
Best policy on leather in most modern cars is just keep it clean. When you wash your car..."wash" your leather and it should look new for years.
11-16-2016, 09:39 PM
#33
Senior Member
Yes, I did, thanks.
First, never said it would, said it has met/beat every product I have ever put it up against.
The rests, Agree to disagree. MANY products today simply add irrelevant ingredients, make you believe they really make a difference and then sell them to sheep for twice the price of what the product is worth (if not more). I am not saying this is true all the time, or even most of the time, but in this day and age of being very simply to market a product to the masses through the internet it is becoming more and more true every day. Today, more than ever in the past we have to be much more educated consumer than we ever where; snake oil salespeople are just as prevalent as they ever were.
As for saddle soap, it have matched or beaten EVERY product I have ever put it up against. I have even tried it against some of the $100+ products, when I came across somebody that chose to go that way. Saying that it isn't, based on price, just proves you might be more indoctrinated that even you believe.
The rests, Agree to disagree. MANY products today simply add irrelevant ingredients, make you believe they really make a difference and then sell them to sheep for twice the price of what the product is worth (if not more). I am not saying this is true all the time, or even most of the time, but in this day and age of being very simply to market a product to the masses through the internet it is becoming more and more true every day. Today, more than ever in the past we have to be much more educated consumer than we ever where; snake oil salespeople are just as prevalent as they ever were.
As for saddle soap, it have matched or beaten EVERY product I have ever put it up against. I have even tried it against some of the $100+ products, when I came across somebody that chose to go that way. Saying that it isn't, based on price, just proves you might be more indoctrinated that even you believe.
Last edited by Rockjock3; 11-16-2016 at 09:41 PM.
11-16-2016, 09:43 PM
#34
Senior Member
The "feeling" you get when you "know" you are buying the very best product out there is priceless......ya whatever. A soft brush, a microfiber towel, and some diluted soap and water would probably work as good as necessary. But, detailing my vehicles is kind of a hobby for me so I buy what fits my needs, wants, and budget. My budget is lower than a lot of people here!
Right with you though.
11-16-2016, 09:47 PM
#35
Senior Member
There are numerous credible online sources warning of using saddle soap on leather seats in vehicles.
Unless you've replaced your F-150's seats with saddles, it's recommended that you peruse the following: www.leatherrepaircompany.com/saddle-soap-dangers-leather-cleaning
Unless you've replaced your F-150's seats with saddles, it's recommended that you peruse the following: www.leatherrepaircompany.com/saddle-soap-dangers-leather-cleaning
By the way, here is a link to a website that doesn't sell their own products and basically tells you why the saddle soap of today is fine for car seats as well as most other leathers.
http://rrtrailriders.com/buy-best-saddle-soap/
Sorry, used it on my BMW for 12 years, my dad used it on his leather seats, and I currently use it on my standard leather seating in my F150 for 3 years with ZERO of the stated effects listed. Leather is clean and just as soft as when I bought it.
Last edited by Rockjock3; 11-16-2016 at 09:54 PM.
11-16-2016, 11:12 PM
#36
Senior Member
Imagine that, a credible source, that sells their own leather cleaning products.
By the way, here is a link to a website that doesn't sell their own products and basically tells you why the saddle soap of today is fine for car seats as well as most other leathers.
http://rrtrailriders.com/buy-best-saddle-soap/...
By the way, here is a link to a website that doesn't sell their own products and basically tells you why the saddle soap of today is fine for car seats as well as most other leathers.
http://rrtrailriders.com/buy-best-saddle-soap/...
My post referred to "NUMEROUS credible sources", not A (single) credible source that broadly condemn saddle soap being used on furniture and automotive leathers because of the lye (an acid) it contains. While most of those professional sources, often leather suppliers, ARE NOT vendors of leather treatment products, they may, of course, endorse products that they believe are suitable for their leather products.
Your trail riding post provides a link that promotes KIWI saddle soaps and a home recipe for treating leather, i.e. saddles & tack, containing "10 parts pure flake lye"...OMG. The linked website clearly has no relevant interest in the preservation of fine leathers in automobiles where saddle soaps and their lye constituents are anathema to dyed leather and chromium processes.
It's all about chemistry and pH related to fine leathers, not saddles & trail riding.
11-17-2016, 12:28 AM
#37
Senior Member
My post referred to "NUMEROUS credible sources", not A (single) credible source that broadly condemn saddle soap being used on furniture and automotive leathers because of the lye (an acid) it contains. While most of those professional sources, often leather suppliers, ARE NOT vendors of leather treatment products, they may, of course, endorse products that they believe are suitable for their leather products.
Your trail riding post provides a link that promotes KIWI saddle soaps and a home recipe for treating leather, i.e. saddles & tack, containing "10 parts pure flake lye"...OMG. The linked website clearly has no relevant interest in the preservation of fine leathers in automobiles where saddle soaps and their lye constituents are anathema to dyed leather and chromium processes.
It's all about chemistry and pH related to fine leathers, not saddles & trail riding.
Your trail riding post provides a link that promotes KIWI saddle soaps and a home recipe for treating leather, i.e. saddles & tack, containing "10 parts pure flake lye"...OMG. The linked website clearly has no relevant interest in the preservation of fine leathers in automobiles where saddle soaps and their lye constituents are anathema to dyed leather and chromium processes.
It's all about chemistry and pH related to fine leathers, not saddles & trail riding.
By the way, again you fall into "sheep" by blindly believing what you read and not knowing the whole truth.
Soap is made with lye, but doesn't contain lye. That is because of the chemical process, I believe it is called soponification, that turns the lye into the soap and glycerin (amazing what I remember from high school science). This is another misinformation tactic being used. Lye is bad for leather, but nobody cleans their leather with pure lye. Lye is used in the production of soap, BUT is chemically changed into something else.
If lye was in the soap then it would burn your hands. People wear gloves when making soap with lye, but once the chemical change happens you don't need gloves anymore.
Last edited by Rockjock3; 11-17-2016 at 01:01 AM.
11-17-2016, 09:11 AM
#38
Yes, I did, thanks.
Today, more than ever in the past we have to be much more educated consumer than we ever where; snake oil salespeople are just as prevalent as they ever were.
Saying that it isn't, based on price, just proves you might be more indoctrinated that even you believe.
Today, more than ever in the past we have to be much more educated consumer than we ever where; snake oil salespeople are just as prevalent as they ever were.
Saying that it isn't, based on price, just proves you might be more indoctrinated that even you believe.
11-17-2016, 10:42 AM
#39
Weiman Leather Cleaner & Conditioner from WalMart....
in the Lariat the leather is coated and hence limited to no absorption of leather care products. Not sure about KR / PL. Use the Weiman for my living room leather couch as well - works great. More than adequate for non exotic or really fancy leather.
For my lambskin leather jacket , ostrich / goat higher end cowboy boots I exclusively use Apple leather care which is 100% wax free and doesn't hurt high end leather
in the Lariat the leather is coated and hence limited to no absorption of leather care products. Not sure about KR / PL. Use the Weiman for my living room leather couch as well - works great. More than adequate for non exotic or really fancy leather.
For my lambskin leather jacket , ostrich / goat higher end cowboy boots I exclusively use Apple leather care which is 100% wax free and doesn't hurt high end leather