Topic Sponsor
2015 - 2020 Ford F150 General discussion on the 13th generation Ford F150 truck.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Just tell us your under invoice price paid.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-22-2018, 11:47 AM
  #5871  
DISCOUNT JEDI MASTER
 
toptobottom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: NY
Posts: 2,316
Received 822 Likes on 597 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Celtic Knot
Looking for opinions/knowledge. I have a dealer I am working with that is telling me that they have $250 coupons/incentives from Ford that they will apply to my transaction on top of the factory incentives. I know that I qualify for $1,500 incentives on a 2018 Platinum. The dealer is telling me that he can get me another $1,000 using 4 of these "coupons". He said 4 is the max they can use. Has anyone heard of this before?


The cash price before incentives/coupons is still high in my opinion by $1,500. But by using these "coupons" we getting close.Would you still negotiate on the cash price amount before incentives?
All depends what the MSRP & Selling prices & Doc fee are. You have to provide this because it all hedges against what the certificates bring the numbers to. I'm not sure if they have a limit as to what they can stack in the way of certificates. Also, one needs to take in account what area the truck is being negotiated because of the differences in Dealer discounting.
Old 01-22-2018, 01:13 PM
  #5872  
Junior Member
 
Greentruk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I've decided to order a 2018 Lariat. My dealer told me the current incentives run through 04.02.2018. I understand none of you have a crystal ball, but historically speaking, do the incentives only get better as the year goes on? I've been told an ordered truck takes 6-8 weeks for delivery and I will get the better of either the incentives offered at delivery or at time of ordering. I'd ultimately like to be driving my truck no later than late April. I'm trying to decide if it would be in my best interest to wait another month before I order so I could take advantage of better incentives in April.
Old 01-22-2018, 01:30 PM
  #5873  
Senior Member
 
js312's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: New England
Posts: 858
Received 378 Likes on 217 Posts
Default

So, I've been going back and forth on what I want to do about a new truck. I was going to order one soon and have it in the spring, but I looked at local dealers online out of curiosity and found two.

They're both XLT 302A Tow Package and Sport Package Trucks, one is a 2.7 the other is a 3.5. Realistically, while I want the 3.5 the 2.7 is plenty of truck for me. I'd go for that unless the 3.5 was only a little higher.

2.7 MSRP is ~49k, 3.5 is ~52k. I can build the 3.5 I want for about $48 MSRP and I can build the 2.7 for just under $46 I think, so both trucks have some extras I don't care about but they're the closest things I can find.
2.7 Dealer Internet List is ~$44k after incentives, $1100 discount before incentives. I haven't talked to them yet.

Been reading through the thread and finding so much conflicting info.

Do you think $40 before TTT is a realistic number to shoot for on a 2.7 Mag Gray Sport w/ 302a, Tow, FX4, 36 Gal Fuel Tank, Brake Controller, XLT Power Equipment Group, and 20" Wheels? That's about where it'd need to be for me to justify doing it early, and I don't want to waste anyone's time going to the dealer if I'm not being realistic.
Old 01-22-2018, 01:35 PM
  #5874  
Member
 
Celtic Knot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 48
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts

Default



All depends what the MSRP & Selling prices & Doc fee are. You have to provide this because it all hedges against what the certificates bring the numbers to. I'm not sure if they have a limit as to what they can stack in the way of certificates. Also, one needs to take in account what area the truck is being negotiated because of the differences in Dealer discounting.
__________________


Attached are the sticker and sales sheet. According to the Ford website I quailfy for $1,500 in incentives, the additional $1,000 is from these "coupons".
Zip 44149

Last edited by Celtic Knot; 01-22-2018 at 01:45 PM.
Old 01-22-2018, 06:03 PM
  #5875  
Senior Member
 
planetix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 501
Received 169 Likes on 126 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Celtic Knot

__________________


Attached are the sticker and sales sheet. According to the Ford website I quailfy for $1,500 in incentives, the additional $1,000 is from these "coupons".
Zip 44149
Something looks...off maybe? I bought the exact same truck (other than being Shadow Black and not including the rubber mats/box-step) and came out close to 2k lower out the door, and that is after I factored out the difference in sales tax (my sales tax was 3k, yours 4.9k). Are you saying they applied additional discounts on top of that invoice?

My TDD would have been 11.02% except I had a late trade and as TTB likes to say they were probably willing to go deeper in return so the "true" part of that is suspect. Since I am happy with what I got for my trade it doesn't bother me - did you have a trade factored in to this deal? I'm looking at, what, 8.5-ish% TDD on your deal - which isn't bad, don't panic, just making sure we have this correct.


Edit: I see you got hit for $595 for White Platinum Metallic TC (Tri-Coat) which I guess is one of the "premium" colors and $50 for the e-lock diff (which I have but was N/C for me not sure why it's $50 on yours). Those plus the box steps and mats come out to about a grand, so there's half the difference I guess.

I have noticed the Dark Marsala interior is a little harder to come by being new this model year so maybe those don't get discounted as much. I have the black interior.

Last edited by planetix; 01-22-2018 at 06:08 PM.
Old 01-22-2018, 06:32 PM
  #5876  
z06
Senior Member
 
z06's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 443
Received 15 Likes on 9 Posts

Default

Just bought a super crew XLT. Sticker 50200.00. 4554.00 discount. 3955.00 if I figure in the BS 599.00 dealer fee. 6000.00 rebates and 2000.00 certificates for a total of 11995.00 off of sticker.
Old 01-22-2018, 07:08 PM
  #5877  
Member
 
Celtic Knot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 48
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Planetix, sticker is the sticker and the sales sheet is their offer. They are including $1,000 in ford coupons on top of the $1,500 in factory incentives. That is their total of $2500 in rebates. Their cash price appears to be at invoice with the dealer keeping all the holdback. So these $1000 worth of coupons appears to be "protecting" their hold back. I have not heard of these $250 coupons before. My question would be if these coupons are real they still have room in the deal to the tune of their holdback.
Old 01-22-2018, 07:57 PM
  #5878  
Senior Member
 
planetix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 501
Received 169 Likes on 126 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Celtic Knot
Planetix, sticker is the sticker and the sales sheet is their offer. They are including $1,000 in ford coupons on top of the $1,500 in factory incentives. That is their total of $2500 in rebates. Their cash price appears to be at invoice with the dealer keeping all the holdback. So these $1000 worth of coupons appears to be "protecting" their hold back. I have not heard of these $250 coupons before. My question would be if these coupons are real they still have room in the deal to the tune of their holdback.
Yes they have room coupons or no. Hell coupons help them justify their room Whether they want to give it or not is the question. Are you still dealing over email? Looks like you visited that one.

It never hurts to shop around via email and it's painless. That deal doesn't look terrible but I am thinking unless you are stuck on that color (outside and in) and there's a shortage of those in your area you can do better.
The following users liked this post:
silvius (01-23-2018)
Old 01-22-2018, 09:04 PM
  #5879  
On down the highway

iTrader: (4)
 
Truckin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 24,970
Received 1,667 Likes on 1,088 Posts

Default

So almost ready to pull a trigger and apologize for not reading to far into this thread (spent all day going to dealers)
18 lariat - sticker 63,755
price before tax title/ ford rebates and coupon is 58298.
2500 with rebate and (4) coupons puts it 55798 before tax & fees... appears to be 12.5% off msrp... oh, I'm in Chicago
Is this a good deal? thanks
Old 01-23-2018, 12:15 AM
  #5880  
Senior Member
 
planetix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 501
Received 169 Likes on 126 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mudder
So almost ready to pull a trigger and apologize for not reading to far into this thread (spent all day going to dealers)
18 lariat - sticker 63,755
price before tax title/ ford rebates and coupon is 58298.
2500 with rebate and (4) coupons puts it 55798 before tax & fees... appears to be 12.5% off msrp... oh, I'm in Chicago
Is this a good deal? thanks
If you had read the thread instead of going to dealers you would have learned that A) Don't go to the dealers and B) That really isn't enough info to tell you whether it is a good deal or not.

I'm going to say "not" - don't intend to be snarky, but seriously, read I've said it before and surely will again, the amount of effort to do so, which will come out to several hours perhaps spread over a few days, is going to be worth the savings in the end.

Lot of people with "truck fever" lately. I know everyone says they aren't but once you get in the buying mode for a purchase like this it is hard to reign in the impulse to just get it over with and drive the new truck. Take a deep breath and a step back and research. Then email the internet departments of the Ford dealers you didn't visit in person (if you met with a salesperson even briefly and they got your name you are going to be stuck with them whether you know it or not) and do it the right way.

Or just buy the thing and be happy if it doesn't seem like it is worth the effort.


Quick Reply: Just tell us your under invoice price paid.



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:16 AM.