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Old 01-01-2018, 10:08 PM
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Default Ingot Silver owners, Paint Flaw or my imagination?

Do any of you Ingot Silver owners notice a dullness or thinness in the paint just above the windshield in the center where the roof comes down a little lower than the rest of the roof? During different exposures to sunlight, my paint in that small area looks downright thin on the Silver. I have a sunroof and it looks that way from the windshield to the sunroof in that small, extended roof area. At first, I wanted to believe that it was just how the silver looks when bright sun hits it but then I'm wondering why I don't see that same effect anywhere else.
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I haven't noticed anything but of course I always have bugs and what not in that location. What do you mean by looks thin? Pic would help greatly.
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I haven't noticed anything but of course I always have bugs and what not in that location. What do you mean by looks thin? Pic would help greatly.
I mean that on a sunny day while washing it, I can look at it and it looks dull in that small area, as if it's been sanded then clear coated again. Not that that has happened. I mean that's just how it looks. Like it's barely gotten a coat or two of silver in that one area. On an overcast day, it looks pretty evenly coated. That's why I'm wondering if it could be just the way the light hits it. Wondering if anyone else has noticed that. I'll try and catch it on my phone camera and post it in the next day or so.
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Right side of my tailgate is thin like you can see light gray primer
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Hopefully, you are seeing an illusion that seems to be prevalent with metallic silver paint, and not just Ford's ingot silver. For the first year or so with my 2016, there were times when the paint on the sides (mostly doors) would look somewhat splotchy, like softball sized orbs. But it was quite dependant on the environmental lighting...the brighter the sky, the more noticeable it was. Oddly enough, my wife couldn't see it at all. Finally had the opportunity to talk with a dealership body shop manager and he explained the optical tricks metallic silver plays on the eyes. We looked at a few other silver vehicles on the lot, not all Fords, and was able to see the same illusion on most of them. Hope that's the case for you....
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I may also be seeing some illusions on the side because they only show up in certain light, but near the back window there is definitely a paint flaw.
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Check for thin paint inside edge of doors
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Originally Posted by TwinSpinFX4
Hopefully, you are seeing an illusion that seems to be prevalent with metallic silver paint, and not just Ford's ingot silver. For the first year or so with my 2016, there were times when the paint on the sides (mostly doors) would look somewhat splotchy, like softball sized orbs. But it was quite dependant on the environmental lighting...the brighter the sky, the more noticeable it was. Oddly enough, my wife couldn't see it at all. Finally had the opportunity to talk with a dealership body shop manager and he explained the optical tricks metallic silver plays on the eyes. We looked at a few other silver vehicles on the lot, not all Fords, and was able to see the same illusion on most of them. Hope that's the case for you....
That's improper application of the paint. Silver should never look blotchy. I know it's common At the factory level. But it isn't suppressed to look that way. We call it mottling.
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That's improper application of the paint. Silver should never look blotchy. I know it's common At the factory level. But it isn't suppressed to look that way. We call it mottling.
Thanks for identifying that . Didn't know what the term was. How common would you say this on Gen 13 F-150's from the factory? I don't have the trained eye, but wouldn't say mine is bad. I need the right lighting and have to walk around looking for an angle that shows it. Once you see it, move your head an inch or two and it's gone. Usually a couple of faint orbs that vary in size. If you look inside 3-4 feet from the paint, you can't see squat at any angle or lighting. Does that sound like a mild case for factory paint? Seems like it was easier to see on a few silver cars on the lot, but granted I didn't see it on every silver car I looked at.
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Thanks for identifying that . Didn't know what the term was. How common would you say this on Gen 13 F-150's from the factory? I don't have the trained eye, but wouldn't say mine is bad. I need the right lighting and have to walk around looking for an angle that shows it. Once you see it, move your head an inch or two and it's gone. Usually a couple of faint orbs that vary in size. If you look inside 3-4 feet from the paint, you can't see squat at any angle or lighting. Does that sound like a mild case for factory paint? Seems like it was easier to see on a few silver cars on the lot, but granted I didn't see it on every silver car I looked at.
Its really common on any ingot silver vehicle. Most people never notice it as its not too bad on most. You may notice more on an f150 because of the larger flatter panels. Ingot silver in my experience is one of the most difficult silvers. Any silver that has a super coarse metal flake. That right there is an indicator that it will be difficult, and will be prone to mottling. Experience is really the only teacher to get you to spray those without mottling. But at factory level Its a robot usually.


You may notice this on 3 stage white pearls too. Particularly GM vehicles. Next time you see a tahoe or a suburban with white pearl. Check it out. We call them "tahoe safari editions" because they look spotted like a cheetah
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