sthomps

I second this statement.

ks54703

Looking at Rams also but only because of after owning 2 F150's that have had the doors recall's done only to re fail and you always have that winter question in mind. (16 now 18). Next new truck in 2020 definitely will not be a FORD period. Left Ford 1rst time because of the 5.4 engine fiasco, left GM in 16 because of the engine fiasco (07,13). Ram has it's issues too but now trolling the Ram site and Wrangler site ahead of the introduction of the new Jeep Gladiator.
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18 Lariat 502a Max tow.

doug97gxe

the 5.4 spark plug issue? that's the only issue i ever knew about and it was an easy fix

mikeinatlanta

I travel and rent cars for over 200 days a year. After renting, some cars get added to my "might buy" list and some are put on my "never ever buy" list. Any Dodge is on my never buy list and most especially the Ram trucks. I'm well over 50% of the Dodge cars rented having an issue that would take me to the service department, and a Ram that was returned to the rental company next day because it was horrible. Nissan will be on my buy list if they can ever work out the infotainment system. Cadillac has always been a great ride. Like the Chevy trucks, but their cars are pretty bad and make my 150 feel like one of the Cadillacs. Two cars so good I took the MRS to test ride one are the ATSV and Q60 Red. Would like the Toyota but I have found them to be too twitchy and abrupt.

As others have said, XLT is just off of bottom rung. Of course it will have fewer features. My Lariat is only mid level trim.

riptide88

You got guts talking like that to the xlt guys lol

DyLivn

Let's be honest here, there are really 3 models of F150 (4 if you count the Raptor). XL, XLT and Lariat. Platinum, King Ranch, etc are nothing more than Lariats on steroids.

Regardless, you shouldn't have to buy a Lariat to get push button start and projector headlights. Pretty much every $18k econo car on the market comes with those 2 features. You can reserve the LED headlights for the Lariat, but #@$% me reflector halogen headlamps on a 50K vehicle is a joke. Pink slips right now that Ford wises up for the next generation F150 set to release in 2020 and ditches those ****ty headlights in the XLT. Modern headlights will at minimum be an option. It's beyond an aesthetic issue, its a safety issue.

djfllmn

iTrader: (1)

i personally don't think the halogens in my 2018 are all that bad, i think they do a pretty darn good job lighting up the road . Especially compared to the 09-14 lights those were disgraceful.

f1maxis

I most certainly care about the safety ratings and, along with other things, it was a factor in my purchase. Look at the IIHS safety ratings of 2016 full-size pickups, you'll quickly see why Dodge wasn't on my list.

Joe Tom

doug97gxe

i'm a lowly XL owner