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Old 05-28-2018, 11:20 PM
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Don't feel bad, I traded a 2013 MINT 38000 mile 3.3 Eco FX2 for a 2018 2.7 Eco Sport with four wheel drive which I will never use. I lost leather seats, dual climate(wife is not happy), garage door opener, had to pay 600 to pull the stereo and rewire it, will have to pay 1500 to reinstall it. Lost my wheels, side bars, bull bar, trifold bed cover. Feel Better?
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I don't care what navigation I have. Any of them beat pulling over to read a beat map book and making the people behind me all kinds of pissed off.
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Originally Posted by Shane803
Don't feel bad, I traded a 2013 MINT 38000 mile 3.3 Eco FX2 for a 2018 2.7 Eco Sport with four wheel drive which I will never use. I lost leather seats, dual climate(wife is not happy), garage door opener, had to pay 600 to pull the stereo and rewire it, will have to pay 1500 to reinstall it. Lost my wheels, side bars, bull bar, trifold bed cover. Feel Better?
I do actually, lol... I did spend 4+ hours that night before I traded it in pulling everything I had installed off of it so that I can install it all into the 18 when I get it.
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If you're worried about using Google maps without cell service can't you basically download a whole state to phone so it works without service?
Well, I'm very willing to be educated.

If you download a map of an area into your cellphone, and then go to an area where there is no cell service, what technology does the phone use to track your current position and distance to your destination?

If you are doing a long road trip, say Las Vegas to Seattle, how do you know where you will not get cell reception? As I posted before, you can be 15 miles north of San Francisco, and have absolutely no cell service. Surprised the hell out of me!!
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Originally Posted by All Hat No Cattle
Well, I'm very willing to be educated.

If you download a map of an area into your cellphone, and then go to an area where there is no cell service, what technology does the phone use to track your current position and distance to your destination?
The same GPS technology that your Garmin or Tom Tom sitting on top of the dash uses. You do know that your phone has a fully functional GPS in it, don't you? The only thing the phone doesn't have are the full set of maps, unless you download the map you need.
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Originally Posted by centexlimited
still in transit -- don't take the truck, get another one, Messing with a phone, not the same as an in dash unit
I bought a new, black manual transmission Mustang last year, when I really did not want to shift gears any longer. I called the next day and said I did not like it and wanted a different car. They said bring it back and pick out a different one, no problem. Got a white, auto, like I originally wanted. :-)
I bet if you call, they will tell you the same thing. Someone else will buy it, and the truck you want is probably more $, so it's a win for them too.
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Originally Posted by All Hat No Cattle
Well, I'm very willing to be educated.

If you download a map of an area into your cellphone, and then go to an area where there is no cell service, what technology does the phone use to track your current position and distance to your destination?

If you are doing a long road trip, say Las Vegas to Seattle, how do you know where you will not get cell reception? As I posted before, you can be 15 miles north of San Francisco, and have absolutely no cell service. Surprised the hell out of me!!
If I look up a route on my phone while on WiFi, and there are segments that don't have cell service, Google Maps will prompt me to download the whole route to the phone for offline use. I haven't figured out exactly what triggers said prompt, but it's useful.

You can also manually download maps, which is recommended if you may want to go off-route. It also helps reduce mobile data usage on a long trip if you pull up the route more than once, as otherwise Google will need to fetch maps for each area between you and your destination to calculate the route (learned this driving cross-country a few years ago, Google Maps ate a ton of data despite the route not changing and being relatively simple—get on I-90, drive through a bunch of states, get off I-90).

As someone else already noted, your phone's GPS will be used to determine your position, and that doesn't require cell service.
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Ok I will ask, why are you trading a 17 for an 18?
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Originally Posted by gamason
Rand McNally still sells a road atlas that's better than any navigation...if you can read a map!!

Agreed. Especially when comms go down and you’re in BFE in the middle of the night 3 hours from home and it’s snowing sideways lol! Been there done that, bought the Rand when I got back 🙄
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Originally Posted by All Hat No Cattle
Well, I'm very willing to be educated.

If you download a map of an area into your cellphone, and then go to an area where there is no cell service, what technology does the phone use to track your current position and distance to your destination?

If you are doing a long road trip, say Las Vegas to Seattle, how do you know where you will not get cell reception? As I posted before, you can be 15 miles north of San Francisco, and have absolutely no cell service. Surprised the hell out of me!!

Even when there is no cell service cell phones will still pick up GPS service. And correct me if I’m wrong, it’s my understanding that the cell phone and truck GPS work together when the phone is connected...

Apple maps, Google maps, are both worlds better than ford nav. Downloaded Waze but haven’t tried it can’t seem to get it to come up on CarPlay.

Save $700 and buy yourself a cheap cell phone and use that instead of nav. You don’t even need a cellular plan with offline maps on google.


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